Open Thread: Homeland 205, Q&A

 Posted by on October 28, 2012 at 6:30 pm  Homeland
Oct 282012

Welcome back, Basketcases! Ready for another hour of suspense, deception, and poor choices? I’m sure Q&A will deliver, on at least one of those counts.

In last week’s episode, Carrie got some serious payback for last year’s Brody Situation, Dana got closer to the Vice President’s son, Virgil got back on the Carrie Mathison Crazy train, and Brody got thrown out of his own house and then arrested for claiming video responsibility for something he didn’t do. I’m sure we’ll get a lot more of the Perils of Brody this week.

Do you think we’ll also get:

  • More Dana? More Virgil?
  • To see see how Carrie’s feeling about turning her nemesis/boyfriend over to the government he both serves and reviles?
  • Any more info on the mole? (My money’s still on Galvez, but after last week, I’m suddenly thinking Saul could be the one.)
  • Another visit from Mona Sterling Walden?

Enjoy the show, and watch this space for the recap!


  16 Responses to “Open Thread: Homeland 205, Q&A”

  1. I’ve got nothing to do for the next two days but talk online. Everything (I mean EVERYTHIBG) here in Philadephia is shut down for the storm (the mayor went on TV a few hours ago and said directly that nobody should even leave heir homes unless they absolutely have to), so I’m a shut-in. I only hope there isn’t a power failure. I only have a desktop computer, not a laptop, so if the electricity goes. I won’t even be able to come here. 🙁

  2. That was one of the most freaking amazing scenes I’ve ever seen!

  3. Are Finn and Dana going to do a junior version of The Bonfire of the Vanities?

  4. Now that’s acting! Clare Danes was phenomenal, but Damien Lewis was spectacular and had to do it with minimal dialogue. And I’d completely forgotten that Dana used Carrie’s cellphone to make that pivotal call.

    My guess is that, if this episode has a theme, it’s about consequences, which is what Finn was hell-bent to avoid. I hope that hit-and-run wasn’t a (you should pardon the expression) dead end. It gives Dana a secret, and from the way she spilled the information about her dad’s Muslim conversion, Dana isn’t very good with secrets. And the hit-and-run is about life and death, the way everything in this series has been about life and death.

    This is the first episode of the entire series that I’ve watched twice, because I wanted to see that interrogation scene again. It is rare that I get to see two tour de force performances like that, and they are to be cherished. At least, by me.

    • wait, I thought Dana used Carrie’s phone to call the cops on her. And then she called her dad after Carrie was taken away… from the home phone.

      I also can’t wait to watch the interrogation scene again. It was so intense.

  5. I’m a little confused about the final scene of this episode, when Carrie comes home, grabs the wine, goes into the dark living room, sits down and sighs a couple of times. I thought she’d be happier… or more ampled after such a tumultuous day.

    Is it supposed to be a juxtaposition of how Brody comes home to a lit house, filled with family and people who genuinely care for each other? And she’s alone in the dark?

    Is it a revelation on Carrie’s part? That even though she finally achieved what she wanted (taking Brody down), she actually wanted something different/more (to be with Brody), and maybe that was tough to face in the interrogation room?

    Or is it simply just a “Holy crap, what a crazy day!” moment? I mean, we’ve all had crazy days when we just want to go home and evaluate what happened. All she needs is to update her Facebook status to: “Crazy day at work. Where’s my wine?” and she could be me… (well, that and the fact I’m a guy…. so, there’s that).

    Either way, the scene played really sad. Carrie needs a hug…. or a cat…

    • “amped”, not “ampled”

      • I think the last scene was the letdown after the high. Carrie still doesn’t have her job back; she still needs to redefine herself, when it’s so obvious that she’s very good at what it was her role to do. She got to say to Brody a lot of her own truths, and it was with those truths that she evoked his own. She has just used the life she’s been leading as a tool; she may be questioning what that life is worth other than that. Her line in the interrogation room that went something like “I want to ask you to leave your wife and kids and come live with me,” that Brody reacted to with a shock, was likely as powerful for Carrie – and yet the way she used it, in the context of manipulation, could have cheapened it for her. Her love for Brody became so tangled with bringing him down, with fulfilling her need to be right and confident in her skin, that now it’s tainted.

        And then, too, I believe Carrie lives for the adrenaline. The safety of America is her highest priority. She wants to move from high to high. But there are troughs in between, and back in her apartment with the wine, that’s a trough. Carrie doesn’t do well in the troughs. She wants the action. So between the action, she’s biding her time, just waiting. And if Brody becomes a trigger for her action, what good is the love she had for him? Maybe she’s recognizing that.

  6. Who buys this silliness of an interrogator losing their cool and sticking a knife through another American’s hand (a congressman no less) in the first 24 hours of questioning? Let’s get real. Wait, this is Homeland s2. I should know better. From one far-fetched pivot point to another.

    • I disagree with this one, and I’ve had my credibility stretched by other stuff this season. Peter didn’t lose control, or his cool. IMO, it was a calculated move to shock and to get himself out of the room when he sensed he would not be successful. I think it was a little extreme, but I’m not in there dealing with a guy who, we already know, can beat the polygraph. It was an effective move. He got Carrie into the room, and he used her to get the information they needed.

      • You’re right. It was a calculated move and wasn’t a loss of control. To put a knife through a congressman’s hand? It worked for the script, but it was beyond likeliness and reason.

        • I don’t think the CIA considered him a congressman any longer. I think from the time they saw the suicide film, he was a terrorist, pure and simple.

      • It was shocking, but it threw Brody off and made him vulnerable to Carrie.

        • I realize it was shocking, extreme, and most importantly for the show, it worked. But c’mon. Really? How about something just as powerful and more realistic, like threatening his kids and family with scandal? Let’s stab his hand to a table like we’re in a saloon in Tombstone in 1875? Is this show really that far off the rails that the writers need to pull that kind of sensational stunt?

          • This is, I keep remembering, a man who beat the polygraph. The show went out of its way to make sure we knew that. Beating the polygraph means that Brody is in very strong control of his involuntary physical reactions, even galvanic skin response. He controls his breathing, his heart rate, etc. well enough so that his mind is connected to his body in ways that most people can’t even imagine. Mental torture might eventually work, but to break that control quickly, which Peter has said is necessary, a physical jolt would seem to have the best chance. It might sever the links to physical control, where words would bounce off. If Peter judged that, then he did the right thing.

  7. In less than 24 hours, Brody folded faster than the 2012 Detroit Tigers.

    Did you guys notice that Brody’s Acme Explosive vest was manufactured by Wiley Coyote Enterprises? I predict the next attempt on the Vice President’s life will involve an anvil.

    Lastly, the forest scene with the tailor in the previous episode should have been accompanied by “Yakety Sax” a.k.a. the Benny Hill theme song.

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