Nov 152010

For a Walking Dead episode with comparatively few zombies in it, this managed to be, overall, more disturbing than Guts.

Maybe that’s just me. Maybe it pains me more because zombies? Fantasy. Not gonna happen to me. Not something I’m gonna have to deal with. Hacking someone to bits is unpleasant and disturbing, but it isn’t real.

Merle: The Walking Dead Episode 3 (AMC)

Tell It to the Frogs is about the violence that people do to each other, and the ways we justify it. I suppose, in the end, it shows that it’s really about the violence we do to ourselves. This episode, twice, shows horrible things done to characters we’ve been made to understand are, well, evil, for lack of a better word. And you know what? The most horrible, gut-wrenching things in this episode are the horrible things done to the villains. You feel for them. You get that these are horrible human beings, but they’re still human beings. That is not easy for a writer or director to accomplish.

Spoilers below the fold.

Previously on AMC’s The Walking Dead:

“All I am anymore is a man lookin’ for his wife. And his son. And his bag of guns. But mostly his wife. Who’s shagging his best friend.”

“We survive this by pulling together, not apart! We especially survive this by pulling Merle Dixon and the roof pipes together, not apart!”

“She’s my sister! This fact is really relevant for some reason!”


“Where’s Glenn?”(Cut to Glenn driving the sports car recklessly and fast, screaming WOOHOO [really] while his stereo blasts hardcore rap music [not really]: I got 99 Problems and this car alarm is one!)

I may make this “Previously On” pastiche a weekly thing if you guys want.

Ahem. Back to serious. We open with a scene of Merle Dixon on the roof. Clearly not mentally stable to begin with, he has started talking to… Himself? A hallucination? Someone he’s imagining? He’s telling a story. He started a fight while in the military, because he is a racist and the other person (an NCO) wasn’t white. And he punched the guy’s teeth out. Got put in the military version of prison for over a year (“hard-time”), but he says it was worth it just to see that guy spit his teeth out. How charming. He tells this story and when it’s over, he notices (remembers?) where he is, and starts straining against his handcuffs. And then the walkers go back to straining against the padlocked door. Merle sees them get it barely open. “Please Oh Jesus Please. I know I’m being punished. I know that I’ve been bad. Help me God show me the way oh please God” (Rough transcription.)

Man, they make you feel bad for the douchebag. And maybe the talk of God punishing him is a writer’s way of explaining the handcuff key falling down the drain?

Merle goes back to trying to reach the hacksaw he wanted last episode. His belt, which he uses to try and extend his reach, is already off–Clearly he’s been trying this for a while. Partway through he starts raving, something about not begging. And the walkers crack open the door a bit.

Cut to credits.

Post-credits: Rick’s driving the truck back to camp. The rest of the group is in the back of the truck except for Morales, who is riding shotgun: “Don’t worry, nobody is going to miss Merle. Well, except his brother.” -Morales. Glenn zooms by in his cool car still shouting WOO-HOO and blasting the car alarm. “Least somebody’s having a good day.” – Morales again. We’ve barely seen anything of this character and I like him already. The actor is warm and mild, and refreshingly, I can understand what he says. I’m not used to Southern accents, which makes it hard to understand a lot of what’s said on this show.

Back at camp: Lori (Rick’s wife) is giving Carl (their son) a haircut (he needs it). Shane (Rick’s best friend and former partner) is cleaning his gun. Shane tells Carl he’s gonna take the boy frog-catchin’. Apparently it isn’t enough for him to fuck his best friend’s wife–He’s looking to replace Rick as a father figure too. And still getting in misogynist digs at Lori while he’s at it.

Look, I’m aware that there’s talk about whether or not the show is misogynist. I’m planning a post to address that point. Shane, though: Definitely misogynist. Definitely an unreliable narrator in that conversation. Definitely thinks of himself as a good guy.

I can’t decide if the right animal metaphor to describe Shane is a weasel, a snake in the grass, or something else. I’m leaning towards snake in the grass.

Right. Frog conversation. Shane’s trying to convince Lori and Carl that frog legs aren’t gross food. “We’ll feed these folks Cajun-style Kermit legs!” he says. Lori says: “I’d rather eat Miss Piggy. [beat] Yes, that came out wrong.”

Help me out here, guys. You’re my Brain Trust. Came out wrong how?

And then they hear the car alarm, and Glenn drives up. Prompting everyone but Glenn to freak out because it’s really loud and noise draws the zombies they went up on the mountain to escape. Amy (pink shirt teenager) freaks out because her sister (Andrea) isn’t in the car with Glenn. Truck drives up. Morales has a wife and kid at the camp. “Told you I’d be back.” Morales has his heartfelt reunion, Amy and Andrea have theirs, and then Rick, his wife, and son, have one wonderful tearjerker of a heartfelt reunion.

Nighttime. The gang is sitting around the fire. Rick talks about his experience after waking up in the hospital. Gods, I hope this scene isn’t foreshadowing to an “All a dream” ending. Rick: “I can’t tell you how grateful I am to you, Shane.” Dale: (Clear indication the whole camp knows Shane’s been fucking Rick’s wife.) Ed: (Puts log on the fire.) Shane: (Starts argument with Ed because Ed’s an idiot and they don’t want the smoke to draw walkers.) Ed: (Loses fight). Ed’s wife Carol apologizes for her husband’s egregious behavior. Huh. Then the group gets to talking about how they tell Merle’s brother Darryl the news.

Everyone is in character this scene. That isn’t easy to write when the lines are this short. Rick and T-Dog show themselves to prefer doing the right thing over doing the smart thing, which is a trait I share and like to see in people. Glenn, who is growing on me as fast as Morales, points out “It might sound better coming from a white guy.” Rick, T-Dog, Glenn, Amy, Andrea, Dale, all weigh in. Andrea, along with Jacqui, is the strong female character this show lacked its first episode. Jacqui helped with the very worth-pursuing sewer idea last week, drawing on her city Zoning board experience. Wouldn’t surprise me if her knowledge of the city was extremely useful during survival looting runs; Might explain why she went along. Anyway. T-Dog points out that the zombies (“geeks”) couldn’t have gotten through to Merle, so he’s still up there unless he found a way out. You know, I was really questioning why he locked that door.

Next scene. Rick in the tent with his wife and son. We see Rick has a fresh bandage on his wound. I love how the actor’s been showing that he still has that wound—when he ran in episode two, he clutched his side—one of the little things TV shows often forget about. Rick mentions the photo albums were how he knew they were alive, and Lori pulls one out to look at. “Baby I really never thought I would see you again. …I’m so sorry. For everything.” She’s not just talking about Shane. The last time they spoke it was to have a fight. He notices she has his wedding ring. “Do you want it back?” “…Of course.” Interesting. I think she needs to… Be re-accepted by him. Sort of, re-marry him. Something like that. They go back to kissing. Rick’s hand wanders, a little. Not much. He looks at Carl. Lori says “He won’t wake up.” Eww. That means she knows from prior experience. Rick’s gentleness contrasts with the opening scene of last week’s episode. Shane makes a great foil to the protagonist.

Post-commercial break Glenn complains about them stripping his cool new toy car. He gets that they need the supplies but wanted to play with drive it a few more days. Rick says “Maybe we’ll get to steal another one someday,” which I really really hope is foreshadowing. ‘Cause, cool car. Rick goes to ask his wife permission to let him go rescue Merle. Carl screams: There’s a zombie in the woods, eating a deer with a couple of arrows in it. Cue beatdown ending with Dale beheading it and everyone making oh-man-that-stinks motions. “They never come this far up the mountain.” Enter Darryl Dixon, pissed at the zombie for stealing his kill. He pulls his crossbow arrows out of the deer. “Think we can cut around this chewed-up part right here?” This is not a person who paid attention in high school biology. But he doesn’t argue when Shane says it’s not worth the risk, and at least he got a good number of squirrel. Darryl has a point, though. When you’re surviving, venison sounds mighty good. Meat is hard to come by. The zombie’s severed head starts moving around, and Darryl shoots it through the eye. “Don’t y’all know nothin’?” Well, he may be as poorly-educated as his brother (Using the same arrows to kill zombies as you use to kill food? And then wiping them on your jeans?) but at least he appears to be significantly more mentally stable. Which bodes well for Rick, something he may well be thinking as we watch him watch Darryl walk back to camp.

So, the attempt to tell Darryl what happened to Merle goes as well as expected. Which means, Darryl turns it into a fight. I gotta say, a bunch of squirrels tied together make a very poor projectile. Maybe it would be a better projectile if they were alive.

The plan to get Merle back is made. And sold to the reluctant others. Lori saves Rick the trouble/dignity of volunteering himself to go with Darryl. Rick asks Glenn to go with them, which is smart. Glenn, who’s been there and seen the horror recently, agrees. T-Dog, being T-Dog, insists on going with them. Darryl: “My day just gets better and better don’t it?” T-Dog: “You see anybody else here steppin’ up, to save your brother’s cracker ass?” Darryl: “Why you?” T-Dog: “You wouldn’t even begin to understand. You don’t speak my language.” That language being significantly North on the alignment chart from Darryl and his brother.

Great line:
Shane (to Rick) “Why would you risk your life for a douchebag like Merle Dixon?”
Darryl: “Hey! Choose your words more carefully.”
Shane (to Darryl): “Oh no, I did. Douchebag‘s what I meant.”

Rick sweetens the deal for the others. Practically: Bag o’ guns ‘n’ ammo. Dale’s toolbox. Morally: Points out they can’t leave a man to die of thirst and sun exposure. Chained up like an animal. Tortured to death, in other words. Words Rick doesn’t use. Also, the bag has his walkie-talkie in it, and Rick really doesn’t want to let Morgan (from episode one) walk into the same trap he fell into: Atlanta was supposed to be safe.

Shane makes a good point: The walkers might show up at camp soon. Rick makes some better points and wins this one. Carl, after this scene, makes an even better point than any of the others: Rick is the protagonist. He cannot die.

Okay, not in so many words. But I love it when a character lampshades that trope in fiction.

Anyway, Rick and T-Dog ask to borrow Dale’s bolt cutter. Dale asks for something in return that Rick was planning on giving him anyway: Dale’s choice of gun. Jim, Dale’s mechanic friend whose name I had to look up on the IMDB, asks for less than Rick was planning on giving him: The truck’s radiator hose. Rick tells Jim he can feel free to strip the truck clean when they get back.

Can you imagine if either had asked for something Rick hadn’t been planning on giving them anyway in exchange for something neither wanted to lend him?

And now we spend time to emphasize that Rick only has four bullets. Please remember this for next week, there might be a test.

Entering town in the railyard. Interesting. Visually striking too. Man, these eHarmony commercials are annoying, and the DirecTV commercials disturbing. Why am I watching the commercials? Looking for zombie-themed commercials, of course. And the contest code for a shamble-on role as a zombWHAT DO YOU MEAN 21+ ONLY?

Back from the commercial. Shane is trying to make sure he’s in a father figure position in case Rick dies on the rescue mission teach Carl to catch frogs. By… splashing around and playing? Man, he isn’t even trying. Jacqui has some of the best lines in this scene: “I’m beginning to question the division of labor here.” “Can someone explain to me how the women ended up doing all the Hattie McDaniel work?” Carl only gets “Derp” as a line.

Back to  Rick and co. They’re getting Merle first because that path makes more practical sense.

Andrea, Amy, and Jacqui are doing laundry the old-fashioned way and talking about what they miss.

What. Not who. Something my mom pointed out, you can’t grieve. You can’t talk about how everyone you knew, your friends, family, loved ones. Your coworkers. Your bank teller, everyone is either dead or a monster you may have to shoot in the head. Wayne Dunlap had a picture of a pretty girl in his wallet. Maybe she survived. Maybe she didn’t. Maybe one of his coworkers survived, maybe someone in his family. Maybe the waitress who served him coffee every Sunday night. I think they wouldn’t appreciate knowing that his guts were used as camouflage by these guys. And I think these guys don’t want to think about what else might have happened to everyone they ever knew. You can’t grieve. You can’t mourn. It’s too much. It’s too big. Gods. What it must be like for the survivors in Haiti, in Pakistan.

Jacqui misses her coffee maker. Andrea misses some words I couldn’t understand. Carol misses her laundry machines. Amy misses computers and texting. Andrea misses her vibrator. So does Carol.

And… Ed the wifebeating asshole comes to stare at them and toss misogynist insults. Speaking of misogynists, Lori takes Carl away from Shane’s scheming and draws the line while dropping the title. Nice to see her stand up for herself and her family. Maybe “We’re really sorry it took so long to show that this series really does have strong female characters no really” would have been a better title. Harder to title-drop though.

Andrea, gets pissed at Ed being an asshole, sitting on his ass doing nothing. Ever notice how the only people who use “uppity” are bigots? Ed gets violent. Shane, looking for an excuse to beat someone up, picks Ed. And boy, does Shane ever beat him up. Again, we’ve seen that Ed is a wifebeater and so stupid that he puts his own short-term comfort over everyone’s continued survival. He’s a hateful character. Shane beating him up, then threatening to beat him to death if Ed hits anyone ever again is not heroic. At all. This is clear. Carol cries over him and says “I’m sorry” over and over.

We cut to Rick and co. and in a truly excellent, disturbing reveal, we see that Merle Dixon cut his own hand off to escape. But the door was still bolted. So, if he isn’t a splat on the ground next to the building, I find it unlikely in his mental state and with one hand that he could survive. So the question is whether he’s dead or undead, and we don’t find out this week!

Shout-out to commenter and Brain Trust member Write Softly for successfully predicting Merle cutting his hand off.


  29 Responses to “Walking Dead—Episode 1.03: Tell It to the Frogs”

  1. Arthur, the Southern Gothic merde is getting too deep, and, for me, undermining some positive story line possibilities. First Merle Dixon, now Ed, and of course my other brother Darryl. One [of many] appealing aspects of our favorite show, MM, is that the compromised characters [even Betty!, in a sense …] are also appealing – Roger’s wit & childishness, Pete’s most recent stand-up behavior, all of my pappy, Don. Unfortunately, TWD is wallowing in southern white male redneck stereotypes, rather than playing against them in an interesting way. We are 3 episodes into a 6 show run and the story line and character development are running more toward TV/B movie stereotypes, rather than away from them. Sigh ….. I realize the counterpoint is the moral, altruistic Saint Rick, but, as MM shows, its much more effective if the heroic lead shows feet of clay and the supporting roles aren’t generic cutouts, especially [in a series set in the South] that old redneck trope. Didn’t the writers read Flannery O’Connor and Faulkner in school? Lipps sisters, any indication this show runner pays attention to his audience feedback in blogs? I have high hopes for this show, but …..

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  3. “…my other brother Darryl,” hehe. There were two boys named Darryl in my high school class, and we always called them “Darryl and his other brother Darryl.”

  4. DLC, I have to agree that these are heavy-handed characters. On the one hand, it’s probably true that our best and worst traits are more exaggerated in a survival situation. OTOH, this ain’t no Mad Men. Really enjoyable, but not The Best Show on Television.

  5. I think it’s interesting what they’ve /done/ with the heavy-handed characters. I think that making you feel bad for what’s done to them wouldn’t have nearly the punch if they weren’t such one-note villains. This makes the audience think, “He’s horrible but nobody deserves that.” Somehow, I don’t think it would do that nearly as effectively if they were more dimensional than they are.

  6. I heard the “eat Miss Piggy” line coming out wrong as referring to a potentially Kermit performed forplay move…

  7. I didn’t quite understand this ; Dale: (Clear indication the whole camp knows Shane’s been fucking Rick’s wife.). Is this possible? Were they that careless? I mean, Lori could not have made it more obvious when she said “Carl won’t wake up”, I mean c’mon..even my wife said “Yeah, speaking from experience”, but do you think the whole camp knows? Does Rick? Will it eventually come out? I hope not. Given the circumstances and the need for the group to work as a team this could only cause a ton of tension..but could make for a good story line addition.

    • Were they that careless? I mean, Lori could not have made it more obvious when she said “Carl won’t wake up”, I mean c’mon..even my wife said “Yeah, speaking from experience”, but do you think the whole camp knows?

      I’m not 100% sure. Arthur and I discussed it, and he’s sticking to his guns. It’s a small camp, there’s very little privacy, and people always think “no one knows” when everyone does. Have you ever worked in an office where people are having a “discreet” affair and everyone knows?

      OTOH, these people are so stupid that Carl was able to wander off and find a zombie without anyone knowing until the screaming started.

  8. Haven’t seen the ep yet, but I’ve read the Walking Dead comic. The series is by no means mysogynistic if it follows the printed version, but the severed-hand device is coming in a bit too early.

  9. Did the first episode really ‘lack’ a strong female character? I mean, there definitely wasn’t one, but there didn’t need to be. The first episode was about establishing the world this show is creating through the eyes of someone experiencing it for the first time.

    • Did the first episode really ‘lack’ a strong female character? I mean, there definitely wasn’t one, but there didn’t need to be. The first episode was about establishing the world this show is creating through the eyes of someone experiencing it for the first time.

      Really? The absence of 50% of the kind of people in the world isn’t problematic? Is it Smurf World?

  10. Eric, I think the affair with Shane predates Rick getting shot. Or at least Shane’s desire for Lori; he did tell her Rick was dead, after all. And yeah, I imagine the other camp members did wake up, even if Carl didn’t.

  11. No, it isn’t Smurf World, but it was a deserted town where MOST of the inhabitants are of the undead variety. And it was one episode. Does every episode of every television show have to have strong points of view from all backgrounds? The story they wanted to tell was Rick Grimes coming to terms with what the world he got shot in has become. I think the absence of a female character, aside from maybe Morgan’s dead wife, in that particular episode actually has more of an impact, because it shows just how much everything has changed.

  12. The Miss Piggy joke makes sense if you add the word “out” to that line between “eat” and “Miss Piggy”. She’s referencing preferring to eat a pig, but gives it a female name…….thus the double entendre. I didn’t get it the first time either.

    As for these reviews, keep them coming please! Your Previously on….quips are great and you should continue with those. Doesn’t surprise me that AMC wants only 21+ for their contest, but are you shocked because you are*gasp*under 21? If so, kudos, you do a better job writing than most of the students that age I’ve worked with that are in college and should KNOW HOW to structure and write a good, complete sentence.

    The reveal of the severed hand was great, and sets up a realm of possibilities plot and character-wise. That opening scene with Merle going mad on the roof was played to perfection by Rooker and did totally redeem the stereotypical portrayal of him in ep 2. Loving this show, thanks to AMC for keeping up the quality tv-I feel they are now the holders of the best network on tv crown, taking it away from HBO.

    Looking forward to more WD and soon!


    Episode 1: 5.3 million viewers
    Episode 2: 4.7 million
    Episode 3: 5.1 million

    Yikes. The Walking Dead is killing both Boardwalk Empire and Sons of Anarchy (its two other main competitors for highest viewership for a cable drama series) thus far. Very impressive. AMC must be thrilled.

  14. I read the Shane-Lori thing differently. It could well have been that when Shane said Rick was dead, he believed he was telling the truth. Come on, how many dead in and around the hospital, and Rick survived?! What are the odds?

    Lori’s behaviour, OTOH, is part guilt – make that a LOT of guilt.

  15. Andrew, I’m going to quote from Film Experience, because I think Nathaniel covered it very well:

    I’m especially uncomfortable with what struck me as a pretty obvious (if unintentional?) misogyny: the first female we see is the little girl zombie. She’s the first kill. We follow that with a jump backwards in time and we sit with two cops (Rick and his partner Shane, Jon Berthal, pictured above) and we discuss Rick’s cruel nagging wife and how she wants him to share his feelings (god forbid!). We don’t meet her then so she gets no voice of her own, just the one prescribed to her: cruel, nagging, relentless, one who causes emotional distress to her husband AND child. The next important female “character” we meet is another cruel mother; this one is a zombie who really wants to dine on her son. The boy’s good heroic father is protecting him from her, though he still can’t bring himself to kill his now-cruel wife. Later, we see a few living female characters (no names) and we discover that Rick’s wife (the cruel nag) is alive and she’s now sleeping with his former partner (pictured, left). In their defense they both think Rick is dead but basically what we have here is dead women, hungry dead women, and living unfaithful nags!

  16. Both of those problems were addressed in the subsequent episodes. Andrea was introduced, an extremely strong and independent female character, and Lori has been given much more depth. And, as the writer of that quote points out, Lori is not made out to be just a complete shrew because she truly does believe her husband dead.

    Also, maybe it’s because I’m part of the patriarchy, but I did not see the scene in the cruiser as senseless woman bashing, but rather a humanizing moment where two husbands share in marital frustration. People who live together frequently annoy each other, and when you add a kid that just intensifies everything. Would a scene with two women complaining about their dumb, lazy husbands indicate that the writers hated men? Possibly, but I really think the larger context of the series is bearing out that that scene was not malicious in its intent.

  17. Congratulations to Write Softly, who predicted on 11/9(# 20): “I’m thinking that our racist survivalist type will survive the rooftop because T-Dog handily and helpfully kicked over that toolbag as he raced back to originally unlock the cuffs. Remember how we saw the hacksaw in that toolbag earlier? Merle wanted T-Dog to hand it to him so he could cut through the cuffs, right? My prediction (and it IS just that, since Dixon wasn’t a book character and I can’t know where this storyline is going …): Dixon has to cut himself free with something in that toolbag. I feel like he’s going to be forced to cut his hand off at the wrist rather than take the time to cut through the cuff chain. Why? BECAUSE IT’S A ZOMBIE SHOW, why wouldn’t he? That tissue is softer and easier to get through than the metal, and we already know the walkers make their way to the rooftop and are straining through the padlocked door.”

    The second Merle started tossing the belt, I knew what would happen because I remembered Write Softly’s prediction (the knowledge did not spoil it for me). And Don’s Love Child (#26, 11/10), I love me some “Dixon/Rooker scenery-chewing,” and I was very glad to see D/R get a left-out-in-sun-to-be-eaten-alive monologue. Rooker did a great job with it. If the gang of four find him and bring him back to safety, will he believe in redemption and start to let go of his hateful beliefs? Or because he escaped the rooftop on his own will he believe he’s on his own no matter what the group does or how it treats him?

    Looked to me like the previews contained a show-down with another group of survivors in the city who don’t believe in sharing/working together. Another example of the enemy is us–humanity creates a distopia in the aftermath of catastrophe.

  18. I enjoyed the camp scenes where we learned more about this large cast and how the characters interact–especially the scene with the women and *what* they miss (spot on about grief, Arthur).

    Darryl was less overwrought in his hatred than I thought he’d be. Perhaps he’s a misanthrope and expects the worst of everyone anyone anyway. Glad to see a crossbow! I’d been thinking since last week that it would be an excellent silent weapon (much more effective than a bundle of dead squirrels). I think Merle is still alive (okay, I think so because the character is played by a recognizable actor).

    Shane is shaping up to be the true villain in the group. Shane masquerades as a good guy but he’s been the first to write off the living every time. Am I the only one wondering how Lori got her husband’s wedding ring? I assumed that she had a tearful goodbye with him in the hospital while he was in a coma and took the ring at that time. Now I think Shane could of taken it and presented it to her with the “he died” story. Eeewwwww is right! (Thanks Arthur [#27, 11/13], for explaining how we know last week’s tryst was planned [“took you long enough”]).

    Ed’s character does seem…what is Betty Draper’s phrase…not of good caliber? It would be much more interesting if the wife beater were someone who was skilled at something (like Dale and his watchfulness). Wife beaters just sit around and put zombie-attracting logs on the fire? Say hello to our latest one-dimensional character. Not betting that he’ll get a crazed soliloquy next week. Don’t agree Arthur that it would be less dramatic if the not-good characters were more complex. Less melodramatic, yes.

    So, the zombies are coming to camp (been in previews twice)–will that happen in the next epi while the gang of four is in Atlanta? Will the camp break up and run before the gang returns? Will the gang find Merle, or will he make it back on his own?

  19. Patroadtrip, I’ll take bets that D/R doesn’t see his lost hand as an epiphany; its just one more grudge to carry in his scenery-chewing lunchbox, and one, absent Dale assembling some kind of hillbilly prosthetic, will cut down on Merle’s use of my other brother Darryl’s crossbow!

    Re: our nascient luv triangle, Rick/Shane & their shared wife: It was Flannery O’Connor who noted that “A Good Man is Hard to Find.” Let’s hope the writers brush up on their Flannery/Faulkner/Walker Percy before writing next season …

  20. Your’re right of course, #21 Don’s Love Child. I was just hoping. Poor Merle, reduced to one-handed combat. Maybe he’ll be put on laundry duty (yeah, right). Do you think he has a secret stash of drugs back at the camp?

    I think observant people (like Dale) know about Shane & Lori.

  21. Obladee, good point. After reading your message I recalled in the first episode the discussion between Rick and Shane about their relationship. Rick seemed to elude to some real problems going on between them and I think you might be right that the Lori/Shane thing might have been going on before the whole Zombie epidemic hit. Rick might have been asking to see if there was any indication that Rick knew of something going on between Shane and Lori..

  22. #20 patroadtrip – Lori may have taken her husband’s ring when he checked into the hospital. Theft of patient’s personal items can be a problem in some hospitals, so family members may be advised to take home watches, rings, etc.

    Like some other posters, I think Lori and Shane’s intimate relationship predates the zombie invasion and I agree that other camp members have got to be aware that they’ve been hooking up.

  23. CParis, I suspected Lori & Shane’s relationship may have predated the apocalypse until I saw her confront him this episode. That wasn’t a woman talking with her extra-marital lover.

  24. #24 CParis, thanks.

    #25 Deborah, I agree. Although I think the pre-apocalypse car chat shows that Shane was interested and was trying assess the Rick & Lori marriage.

  25. You know, if the hacksaw wouldn’t cut through metal, I think I’d have just cut my thumb off and tried to slip the rest of the hand through the cuff.

  26. #27, Melissa:

    I agree about the thumb. I also should remember to get your coordinates, in case the Zombiepocalypse should occur … you are clearly a very practical thinker in these situations. 🙂

    Deb and others: the lack of a strong female point of view has been
    bothering me in a consistent way until this episode. And no, the cool ending did not make up for this. In fact, the little discussion between the women, near the end of this episode, about what they miss (“my washing wachine”? Really? What about MY JOB?) really set me off.

    But this does say more about me than about the show. Obviously.

    #20 patroadtrip:

    I too was happy when the crossbow showed up. I’m kind of clumsy, a lightweight when it comes to many things, but my weapon-wielding alter ego would definitely choose that one. Not to mention the fact that the crossbow gave us the Zombie Kill of the Week:

    Still a fan, for sure.

  27. I’ll have to admit that the show in general is a rather disturbing concept, but I’m hooked!.

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