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		<title>By: Josie</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2010/03/15/viewer-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-44231</link>
		<dc:creator>Josie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retrogirl: Did you read the interview in the link provided by Lisa?  Vincent K. states that Peggy lets the family raise him. 
Is it possible that Vincent is mistaken and doesn&#039;t know that plot line?  Possibly, because a whole lot of other people who follow the story very closely certainly are. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retrogirl: Did you read the interview in the link provided by Lisa?  Vincent K. states that Peggy lets the family raise him.<br />
Is it possible that Vincent is mistaken and doesn&#039;t know that plot line?  Possibly, because a whole lot of other people who follow the story very closely certainly are.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2010/03/15/viewer-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-44230</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;s life centered on power, the power to act as he deems fit. 
 
Contractual restrictions on future employment are likely only a secondary concern for Draper.  Several times, he has stated ambivalence about remaining in advertising, and Sterling expressed his doubts about Don&#039;s commitment.  As a practical matter, he has turned his back on his marriage commitment, his service committment, his brother, his children and multiple lovers.  Don leaves when it suites his purpose, he would likley depart SC, legal contract notwithstanding. 
 
The constraint Don fears is his latitude to operate in the SC context.  Absent the threat of flight, the senior partners would be more demanding, and less tolerant of his behavior.  Don&#039;s ability to flee would remain, but his operating environment would be more constrictive prior to any sudden departure. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#039;s life centered on power, the power to act as he deems fit. </p>
<p>Contractual restrictions on future employment are likely only a secondary concern for Draper.  Several times, he has stated ambivalence about remaining in advertising, and Sterling expressed his doubts about Don&#039;s commitment.  As a practical matter, he has turned his back on his marriage commitment, his service committment, his brother, his children and multiple lovers.  Don leaves when it suites his purpose, he would likley depart SC, legal contract notwithstanding. </p>
<p>The constraint Don fears is his latitude to operate in the SC context.  Absent the threat of flight, the senior partners would be more demanding, and less tolerant of his behavior.  Don&#039;s ability to flee would remain, but his operating environment would be more constrictive prior to any sudden departure.</p>
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		<title>By: CPT_Doom</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2010/03/15/viewer-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-44229</link>
		<dc:creator>CPT_Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Don didn&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t see a marriage contract as so hard to break. A job you quit, but a marriage? You literally run away from. You get on a plane to Mexico, and you don&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t leave any forwarding information. &lt;/i&gt; 
 
Which he basically tried to do with Rachel, so perhaps it was always percolating in his mind. I also think that Don was not fully &quot;Don&quot; when he married Betty - he was still perfecting his persona. He knew Anna could have destroyed his whole world, and there would still be a chance his ruse would be uncovered. Marrying a rich girl like Betty, who would have a hard time breaking her marriage contract even with proof of his fraud, might have also seemed like a good fallback. Had he been found out, her family might be concerned enough about their name to cover it up. 
 
By the time we get to &lt;b&gt;Seven Twenty Three&lt;/b&gt;, though, Don is fully his persona, and knows he&#039;s pretty much set in it. Knowing he can succeed on his own is only going to make him less likely to want the SC contract. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Don didn&acirc;&euro;&trade;t see a marriage contract as so hard to break. A job you quit, but a marriage? You literally run away from. You get on a plane to Mexico, and you don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t leave any forwarding information. </i> </p>
<p>Which he basically tried to do with Rachel, so perhaps it was always percolating in his mind. I also think that Don was not fully &quot;Don&quot; when he married Betty &#8211; he was still perfecting his persona. He knew Anna could have destroyed his whole world, and there would still be a chance his ruse would be uncovered. Marrying a rich girl like Betty, who would have a hard time breaking her marriage contract even with proof of his fraud, might have also seemed like a good fallback. Had he been found out, her family might be concerned enough about their name to cover it up. </p>
<p>By the time we get to <b>Seven Twenty Three</b>, though, Don is fully his persona, and knows he&#039;s pretty much set in it. Knowing he can succeed on his own is only going to make him less likely to want the SC contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Lipp</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2010/03/15/viewer-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-44228</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa, the writers on this show don&#039;t tell the actors much of anything. Most of the time, they are guessing just as we are. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, the writers on this show don&#039;t tell the actors much of anything. Most of the time, they are guessing just as we are.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2010/03/15/viewer-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-44227</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 00:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@12 I am aware that the story we all believed was that Peggy put her baby up for adoption.  However, this was the actor who plays Pete saying in an interview, &#226;&#8364;Peggy being estranged from her child and letting the family raise him.&#226;&#8364;  This made me wonder if we were wrong about that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@12 I am aware that the story we all believed was that Peggy put her baby up for adoption.  However, this was the actor who plays Pete saying in an interview, &acirc;&euro;Peggy being estranged from her child and letting the family raise him.&acirc;&euro;  This made me wonder if we were wrong about that.</p>
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		<title>By: RetroGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2010/03/15/viewer-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-44226</link>
		<dc:creator>RetroGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@4-Peggy&#039;s baby was put up for adoption. The baby is Peggy&#039;s sisters. The idea that the baby in that scene is Peggy&#039;s is a rumor that refuses to die. 
 
It&#039;s easier to cheat on a woman than on a job. You can have affairs, and if you&#039;re careful, avoid getting caught, but the ad game is a small world. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@4-Peggy&#039;s baby was put up for adoption. The baby is Peggy&#039;s sisters. The idea that the baby in that scene is Peggy&#039;s is a rumor that refuses to die. </p>
<p>It&#039;s easier to cheat on a woman than on a job. You can have affairs, and if you&#039;re careful, avoid getting caught, but the ad game is a small world.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dark Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#7 freelance woman, you are funny!  I love it. 
 
@8 gypsy, I agree about the money.  I also wonder, given the difficulties Betty&#039;s had with the professional men she&#039;s gone to in the capacity as a client (the shrink, the family lawyer) they all dismissed and pooh-poohed her and patted her on the head like a silly little girl.  The one time she was even slightly taken seriously was when she was with Henry at the lawyers and even then he did most of the talking.  Given the ease with which women were dismissed it seems like she might have even had a difficult time finding a PI who would even touch a case like that.  It sounds so wild, even though we know it is true.  I wonder if even in more &quot;normal&quot; investigations, if it was easier for men to hire a PI to investigate adultery than females. 
 
 I also wonder how seriously the DoD would take such an accusation mostly based on what third-parties might say.  Even if they did find old friends or distant relatives of Don Draper other than Anna, I wonder how much their statements would hold water, especially with her in Don&#039;s pocket.  It would make DoD look pretty silly though and they might want to bury it.  I suppose if they did had dental records and were truly inclined to really look into it and maybe if someone with Henry&#039;s political connections asked them to look into it, they might but it seems like one of those things that would be filed under &quot;T&quot; for too much trouble and trash.   Now maybe if Betty and Pete started talking and he provided whatever his  friend dug up,  or if Henry has a contact like Pete did that could also get the ball rolling.  Then again even if they used that evidence, and decided to try to convict Don if the story made them look bad they might go after Pete&#039;s friend b/c you are only supposed to access such information on a need to know basis, not b/c your friend is curious about their boss&#039; service record and you certainly don&#039;t release such information to people who aren&#039;t even remotely connected to the government, with no security clearance and really have no need to know.   Just idle speculation though, it might make for an intersting story line but then it would take things wayyyy far from the premise of Madison Avenue ad execs. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#7 freelance woman, you are funny!  I love it. </p>
<p>@8 gypsy, I agree about the money.  I also wonder, given the difficulties Betty&#039;s had with the professional men she&#039;s gone to in the capacity as a client (the shrink, the family lawyer) they all dismissed and pooh-poohed her and patted her on the head like a silly little girl.  The one time she was even slightly taken seriously was when she was with Henry at the lawyers and even then he did most of the talking.  Given the ease with which women were dismissed it seems like she might have even had a difficult time finding a PI who would even touch a case like that.  It sounds so wild, even though we know it is true.  I wonder if even in more &quot;normal&quot; investigations, if it was easier for men to hire a PI to investigate adultery than females. </p>
<p> I also wonder how seriously the DoD would take such an accusation mostly based on what third-parties might say.  Even if they did find old friends or distant relatives of Don Draper other than Anna, I wonder how much their statements would hold water, especially with her in Don&#039;s pocket.  It would make DoD look pretty silly though and they might want to bury it.  I suppose if they did had dental records and were truly inclined to really look into it and maybe if someone with Henry&#039;s political connections asked them to look into it, they might but it seems like one of those things that would be filed under &quot;T&quot; for too much trouble and trash.   Now maybe if Betty and Pete started talking and he provided whatever his  friend dug up,  or if Henry has a contact like Pete did that could also get the ball rolling.  Then again even if they used that evidence, and decided to try to convict Don if the story made them look bad they might go after Pete&#039;s friend b/c you are only supposed to access such information on a need to know basis, not b/c your friend is curious about their boss&#039; service record and you certainly don&#039;t release such information to people who aren&#039;t even remotely connected to the government, with no security clearance and really have no need to know.   Just idle speculation though, it might make for an intersting story line but then it would take things wayyyy far from the premise of Madison Avenue ad execs.</p>
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		<title>By: brenda</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2010/03/15/viewer-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-44224</link>
		<dc:creator>brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9, agreed it didn&#039;t take long, but we&#039;ve never actually seen the moment or the woman. There were enough women, though, that word had reached Bobbie Barrett, a stranger from a world only tangentially connected to Don&#039;s. 
 
The key word here is &quot;contract.&quot; While there were marriage contracts in the Jewish faith for centuries, and while they were a tradition among the wealthy families of Europe, there were very few pre-nups in the United States back in the early 1960s. Don most likely would have refused to sign one. But if it were modern times, and the Drapers had one, he might be less inclined to cheat if he knew it would cost him. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9, agreed it didn&#039;t take long, but we&#039;ve never actually seen the moment or the woman. There were enough women, though, that word had reached Bobbie Barrett, a stranger from a world only tangentially connected to Don&#039;s. </p>
<p>The key word here is &quot;contract.&quot; While there were marriage contracts in the Jewish faith for centuries, and while they were a tradition among the wealthy families of Europe, there were very few pre-nups in the United States back in the early 1960s. Don most likely would have refused to sign one. But if it were modern times, and the Drapers had one, he might be less inclined to cheat if he knew it would cost him.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2010/03/15/viewer-mail/comment-page-1/#comment-44223</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don also needed a woman like Betty for image reasons, I believe he loved the idea of Betty (Grace Kelly looks, good Main Line family, college educated) rather than the actual person. He needed her to move forward professionally. 
 
I&#039;m sure it didn&#039;t take long for him to cheat on her, it was suggested that Midge had been around awhile when season 1 started. And we know Betty was aware of it before Francine put it in her head. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don also needed a woman like Betty for image reasons, I believe he loved the idea of Betty (Grace Kelly looks, good Main Line family, college educated) rather than the actual person. He needed her to move forward professionally. </p>
<p>I&#039;m sure it didn&#039;t take long for him to cheat on her, it was suggested that Midge had been around awhile when season 1 started. And we know Betty was aware of it before Francine put it in her head.</p>
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		<title>By: gypsy howell</title>
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		<dc:creator>gypsy howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Betty knows his secret. And she could easily hire an investigator to find if anyone who had served with Dick Whitman in the Army was still alive.&lt;/i&gt; 
 
Well, Betty knows his secret NOW, but she didn&#039;t on 7/23. 
 
But regardless, I&#039;m curious to know whether Betty really COULD have hired an investigator without Don knowing about it.  I got the feeling that Don controlled all the finances in the marriage, like many men did in 1963.  How would Betty have paid for an investigator without him knowing?  Even assuming that for the period when she threw Don out of the house in S2 and she took control of things, I always sort of imagined it went back to status quo ante once he came back.  I recall the conversation they had when she was testing him about the cash in the drawer - &quot;Betts, you have $200 in your account, just go to the bank&quot; -- implying that he gives her an allowance, and keeps track of these things. 
 
Do you think Betty ever felt she could spend money without Don finding out about it? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Betty knows his secret. And she could easily hire an investigator to find if anyone who had served with Dick Whitman in the Army was still alive.</i> </p>
<p>Well, Betty knows his secret NOW, but she didn&#039;t on 7/23. </p>
<p>But regardless, I&#039;m curious to know whether Betty really COULD have hired an investigator without Don knowing about it.  I got the feeling that Don controlled all the finances in the marriage, like many men did in 1963.  How would Betty have paid for an investigator without him knowing?  Even assuming that for the period when she threw Don out of the house in S2 and she took control of things, I always sort of imagined it went back to status quo ante once he came back.  I recall the conversation they had when she was testing him about the cash in the drawer &#8211; &quot;Betts, you have $200 in your account, just go to the bank&quot; &#8212; implying that he gives her an allowance, and keeps track of these things. </p>
<p>Do you think Betty ever felt she could spend money without Don finding out about it?</p>
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