Comments on: Like some nervous poodle http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/12/16/like-some-nervous-poodle/ Intelligent media, including Mad Men, Downton Abbey, The Walking Dead, Hell on Wheels & more. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:17:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Hudsunn http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/12/16/like-some-nervous-poodle/comment-page-1/#comment-42615 Hudsunn Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:03:47 +0000 http://www.lippsisters.com/?p=9660#comment-42615 Also, I see Peggy as more anxious than nervous. Also, I see Peggy as more anxious than nervous.

]]> By: Hudsunn http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/12/16/like-some-nervous-poodle/comment-page-1/#comment-42614 Hudsunn Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:43:36 +0000 http://www.lippsisters.com/?p=9660#comment-42614 I think the references have a lot to do with the fact that a dog can be trained to do a lot of things. Some of them are in keeping with a domesticated dog's nature, such as sitting, begging, rolling over or walking on a leash. Others are not as natural, such as walking on hindlegs or playing the piano. Freddie was of a generation of men who thought that women were not mentally and/or emotionally suited to the high-powered world of business or any other career, except the nurturing ones like teaching and nursing. It was surprising to him that little Peggy could come up with such great ideas and present them well to a group of men. Interestingly, Peggy herself realizes that there is a big difference between being naturally or inately good at something and being trained to be good at it, like a prized poodle. She knows that she has the same abilities as manyh of the men at Sterling Cooper, but that her being a woman makes her talents seem like aberrations or even curiosities. When Don finally comes to her and asks for her help with the new company, she knows that she has some leverage and she makes clear that she does not want to be his lapdog or his trained and obedient poodle. It was a bold move for her, and the observation about it perhaps being intentional to continue the dog analogy is right on. It seems like something the writers would do. I think the references have a lot to do with the fact that a dog can be trained to do a lot of things. Some of them are in keeping with a domesticated dog's nature, such as sitting, begging, rolling over or walking on a leash. Others are not as natural, such as walking on hindlegs or playing the piano. Freddie was of a generation of men who thought that women were not mentally and/or emotionally suited to the high-powered world of business or any other career, except the nurturing ones like teaching and nursing. It was surprising to him that little Peggy could come up with such great ideas and present them well to a group of men. Interestingly, Peggy herself realizes that there is a big difference between being naturally or inately good at something and being trained to be good at it, like a prized poodle. She knows that she has the same abilities as manyh of the men at Sterling Cooper, but that her being a woman makes her talents seem like aberrations or even curiosities. When Don finally comes to her and asks for her help with the new company, she knows that she has some leverage and she makes clear that she does not want to be his lapdog or his trained and obedient poodle. It was a bold move for her, and the observation about it perhaps being intentional to continue the dog analogy is right on. It seems like something the writers would do.

]]> By: SFCaramia http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/12/16/like-some-nervous-poodle/comment-page-1/#comment-42613 SFCaramia Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:48:15 +0000 http://www.lippsisters.com/?p=9660#comment-42613 I love Peggy...see so much of myself in her. As for being a "nervous poodle," remember, poodles are highly intelligent, and as for being nervous...well, being nervous myself, I think it gets a bum rap. In a way, being nervous means you're highly alive and reactive to your environment, doesn't it? It's a basic condition of existence--poke an amoeba and it moves. I love Peggy…see so much of myself in her. As for being a "nervous poodle," remember, poodles are highly intelligent, and as for being nervous…well, being nervous myself, I think it gets a bum rap. In a way, being nervous means you're highly alive and reactive to your environment, doesn't it? It's a basic condition of existence–poke an amoeba and it moves.

]]> By: Dark Peggy http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/12/16/like-some-nervous-poodle/comment-page-1/#comment-42612 Dark Peggy Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:44:42 +0000 http://www.lippsisters.com/?p=9660#comment-42612 @14 Oguk to me Peggy seems nervous all the time whether at work or at home in almost every environment, even when she seems confident, she still seems shaky. I think that has more to do with being uncomfortable in her own skin than what Don is or isn't providing as a mentor, also I've had a lot of bosses and few of them were mentors, beyond the do this, do that, don't do this, thing. Being a good mentor is a skill and very few people in my experience are cut out to be good mentors and most people hobble along without a mentor and figure things out for themselves, pick up pointers here and there from the people when it seems relavant , no matter who they are. Who was Don's mentor? Doesn't look like anyone was. He probably picked up some points for style from Roger and Burt and his old boss at the furrier or whatever it was but who in the world would he follow the lead of to be who he is today? In Peggy's case though, she is a smart cookie and nervous or not comfortable with herself or not she will succede just like Don did mostly on her own with a little help here and there. @14 Oguk to me Peggy seems nervous all the time whether at work or at home in almost every environment, even when she seems confident, she still seems shaky. I think that has more to do with being uncomfortable in her own skin than what Don is or isn't providing as a mentor, also I've had a lot of bosses and few of them were mentors, beyond the do this, do that, don't do this, thing. Being a good mentor is a skill and very few people in my experience are cut out to be good mentors and most people hobble along without a mentor and figure things out for themselves, pick up pointers here and there from the people when it seems relavant , no matter who they are. Who was Don's mentor? Doesn't look like anyone was. He probably picked up some points for style from Roger and Burt and his old boss at the furrier or whatever it was but who in the world would he follow the lead of to be who he is today? In Peggy's case though, she is a smart cookie and nervous or not comfortable with herself or not she will succede just like Don did mostly on her own with a little help here and there.

]]> By: simone http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/12/16/like-some-nervous-poodle/comment-page-1/#comment-42611 simone Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:00:06 +0000 http://www.lippsisters.com/?p=9660#comment-42611 John Slattery did a hilarious skit on the Colbert Report: <a href="http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/258566/december-15-2009/prescott-financial-sells-gold--women---sheep" rel="nofollow">http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-v...</a> John Slattery did a hilarious skit on the Colbert Report:
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-v…

]]> By: RetroGirl http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/12/16/like-some-nervous-poodle/comment-page-1/#comment-42610 RetroGirl Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:34:03 +0000 http://www.lippsisters.com/?p=9660#comment-42610 @ 12 brenda- While poodles do come in multiple sizes, it is quite possible she was thinking of the miniature poodle. @ 12 brenda- While poodles do come in multiple sizes, it is quite possible she was thinking of the miniature poodle.

]]> By: Phil http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/12/16/like-some-nervous-poodle/comment-page-1/#comment-42609 Phil Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:22:53 +0000 http://www.lippsisters.com/?p=9660#comment-42609 Peggy IS nervous, but it's understandable. Don is not much of a mentor while Joan and Bobbie, although both good at what they do, aren't doing what Peggy wants to do. Peggy really tears at my heart -- I'm torn between wanting another female executive in advertising to take Peggy under her wing yet also wanting to see Peggy figure this all out on her own with whatever resources she can scrape together. There was NOT enough Peggy in season 3. I think Sally had more screen time. Looking forward to the spin-off of "Peggy, the Halston years..." Peggy IS nervous, but it's understandable. Don is not much of a mentor while Joan and Bobbie, although both good at what they do, aren't doing what Peggy wants to do.

Peggy really tears at my heart — I'm torn between wanting another female executive in advertising to take Peggy under her wing yet also wanting to see Peggy figure this all out on her own with whatever resources she can scrape together.

There was NOT enough Peggy in season 3. I think Sally had more screen time.

Looking forward to the spin-off of "Peggy, the Halston years…"

]]> By: Deborah Lipp http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/12/16/like-some-nervous-poodle/comment-page-1/#comment-42608 Deborah Lipp Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:34:37 +0000 http://www.lippsisters.com/?p=9660#comment-42608 Great connection. I hadn't noticed it but I'm sure you're right. Great connection. I hadn't noticed it but I'm sure you're right.

]]> By: brenda http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/12/16/like-some-nervous-poodle/comment-page-1/#comment-42607 brenda Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:07:20 +0000 http://www.lippsisters.com/?p=9660#comment-42607 I was trying to figure out where "nervous poodle" came from. Poodles have always struck me as a luxury dog and since toys are the most nervous, it doesn't seem like there would be many of them in Brooklyn. I was trying to figure out where "nervous poodle" came from. Poodles have always struck me as a luxury dog and since toys are the most nervous, it doesn't seem like there would be many of them in Brooklyn.

]]> By: Kisses in the Hallwa http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/12/16/like-some-nervous-poodle/comment-page-1/#comment-42606 Kisses in the Hallwa Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:27:08 +0000 http://www.lippsisters.com/?p=9660#comment-42606 On the topic of Babylon: last time I watched it, I noticed Hilton was mentioned a couple of times, too. On the topic of Babylon: last time I watched it, I noticed Hilton was mentioned a couple of times, too.

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