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		<title>By: gypsy howell</title>
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		<dc:creator>gypsy howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s a &#226;&#8364;&#339;purple heart&#226;&#8364;&#226;&#8364;&#166;.not a purple star.&lt;/i&gt; 
Doh!  Of course.  I knew that. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It&acirc;&euro;&trade;s a &acirc;&euro;&oelig;purple heart&acirc;&euro;&acirc;&euro;&brvbar;.not a purple star.</i><br />
Doh!  Of course.  I knew that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a &quot;purple heart&quot;....not a purple star. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s a &quot;purple heart&quot;&#8230;.not a purple star.</p>
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		<title>By: White T Jim B</title>
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		<dc:creator>White T Jim B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me of a saying I once heard, along the lines of, &#226;&#8364;&#339;Everybody&#039;s a self-made man; but only the successful ones are willing to admit it.&#226;&#8364; 
 
Anne B, I see here, opines &quot;Don has a history of telling his story only very strategically, when his back is to a wall, or when he finds a soulmate.&quot; 
 
I read that and thought, &quot;Is there ever another reason to do so?&quot; To me, the thing about telling our own stories is that it&#039;s hard to find a person who cares. What&#039;s worse still is if in exchange, you have to listen to his. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of a saying I once heard, along the lines of, &acirc;&euro;&oelig;Everybody&#039;s a self-made man; but only the successful ones are willing to admit it.&acirc;&euro; </p>
<p>Anne B, I see here, opines &quot;Don has a history of telling his story only very strategically, when his back is to a wall, or when he finds a soulmate.&quot; </p>
<p>I read that and thought, &quot;Is there ever another reason to do so?&quot; To me, the thing about telling our own stories is that it&#039;s hard to find a person who cares. What&#039;s worse still is if in exchange, you have to listen to his.</p>
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		<title>By: Taiga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taiga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 23:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe, as a PP offered, working in advertising was a glamorous career he saw in the movies.&quot; 
I&#039;m having flashbacks to &#039;Death Of A Salesman&#039;! 
 
&#039;Betty did not agree when Henry said she should only depend on him; she just sat there.&#039; 
But then the lawyer said that if all she wanted was a quick end to the marriage that she should go to Reno, and that&#039;s what she did.  It doesn&#039;t prove she won&#039;t ask Don for a settlement, but it indicates she may not. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Maybe, as a PP offered, working in advertising was a glamorous career he saw in the movies.&quot;<br />
I&#039;m having flashbacks to &#039;Death Of A Salesman&#039;! </p>
<p>&#039;Betty did not agree when Henry said she should only depend on him; she just sat there.&#039;<br />
But then the lawyer said that if all she wanted was a quick end to the marriage that she should go to Reno, and that&#039;s what she did.  It doesn&#039;t prove she won&#039;t ask Don for a settlement, but it indicates she may not.</p>
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		<title>By: Meowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think she&#039;d be outraged over him specifically being with Suzanne, because she was Sally&#039;s teacher, and it was going on right under her nose while she was home taking care of a newborn infant and being told he was being run ragged by Connie Hilton (though I still don&#039;t think she bought that, exactly -- &quot;I&#039;ve never been enough for you&quot; sounds to me like she thinks he&#039;s still screwing around).  I think she&#039;d take that a lot worse than finding out about a Rachel or a Midge, who never met Don&#039;s family and never came anywhere near where they lived. 
 
And Roberta #17, I&#039;ll bet you&#039;re right.  S4 is going to mean a lot of new scenery, everywhere.  I&#039;m not even so sure we&#039;ll see &lt;em&gt;Betty&lt;/em&gt; again, let alone Ossining.  (Though I can&#039;t see them skipping 1964 entirely, there&#039;s way too much going on then that&#039;s germane to this show.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think she&#039;d be outraged over him specifically being with Suzanne, because she was Sally&#039;s teacher, and it was going on right under her nose while she was home taking care of a newborn infant and being told he was being run ragged by Connie Hilton (though I still don&#039;t think she bought that, exactly &#8212; &quot;I&#039;ve never been enough for you&quot; sounds to me like she thinks he&#039;s still screwing around).  I think she&#039;d take that a lot worse than finding out about a Rachel or a Midge, who never met Don&#039;s family and never came anywhere near where they lived. </p>
<p>And Roberta #17, I&#039;ll bet you&#039;re right.  S4 is going to mean a lot of new scenery, everywhere.  I&#039;m not even so sure we&#039;ll see <em>Betty</em> again, let alone Ossining.  (Though I can&#039;t see them skipping 1964 entirely, there&#039;s way too much going on then that&#039;s germane to this show.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anne B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&#226;&#8364;&#8482;m still thinking Betty is going to hear scuttlebutt about Suzanne, and that will change her mind about taking him to the cleaners.&lt;/i&gt; 
 
I&#039;m not sure this would affect her decision at all.  She&#039;s already made up her mind about &quot;what she&#039;s entitled to&quot;, and only Henry&#039;s advice steered her away from it.  He&#039;s her counsel right now.  (Whether or not he should be.) 
 
Betty knows that what she needs to prove infidelity is evidence, and perhaps that she&#039;s closer to losing on those grounds than her husband is (Carla, the Junior League ladies, people in Henry&#039;s office, the lawyer ...?).  I don&#039;t think she&#039;ll step any closer to that land mine than she already has. 
 
Anyway, Betty only considered the infidelity charge as a means to getting what she wanted -- a divorce from Don, the freedom to leave -- and now she knows she&#039;ll get that.  She&#039;s not angry enough to go for more.  Betty does not love Don anymore; the opposite of love isn&#039;t rage.  We&#039;ve seen her in that state, and it passed. 
 
This, where she is now, is the true opposite of love:  indifference.  &quot;You&#039;ll always be their father&quot; is not something you say to someone who still makes you feel enough to hate.  Betty only wants to move on. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I&acirc;&euro;&trade;m still thinking Betty is going to hear scuttlebutt about Suzanne, and that will change her mind about taking him to the cleaners.</i> </p>
<p>I&#039;m not sure this would affect her decision at all.  She&#039;s already made up her mind about &quot;what she&#039;s entitled to&quot;, and only Henry&#039;s advice steered her away from it.  He&#039;s her counsel right now.  (Whether or not he should be.) </p>
<p>Betty knows that what she needs to prove infidelity is evidence, and perhaps that she&#039;s closer to losing on those grounds than her husband is (Carla, the Junior League ladies, people in Henry&#039;s office, the lawyer &#8230;?).  I don&#039;t think she&#039;ll step any closer to that land mine than she already has. </p>
<p>Anyway, Betty only considered the infidelity charge as a means to getting what she wanted &#8212; a divorce from Don, the freedom to leave &#8212; and now she knows she&#039;ll get that.  She&#039;s not angry enough to go for more.  Betty does not love Don anymore; the opposite of love isn&#039;t rage.  We&#039;ve seen her in that state, and it passed. </p>
<p>This, where she is now, is the true opposite of love:  indifference.  &quot;You&#039;ll always be their father&quot; is not something you say to someone who still makes you feel enough to hate.  Betty only wants to move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could be wrong, god knows I&#039;ve never predicted anything correctly about this show, but I think we&#039;re done with Ossining. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could be wrong, god knows I&#039;ve never predicted anything correctly about this show, but I think we&#039;re done with Ossining.</p>
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		<title>By: Meowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;But we don&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t know that anybody saw anything. &lt;/em&gt; 
 
Not yet, although I find it hard to believe absolutely nobody else knew.  But the likelihood of their being found out would have increased with every further encounter.  Especially with at least one of them, if not both, falling in love. 
 
And agreed, we haven&#039;t seen Betty say yes to anything yet, just not saying no.  If Betty&#039;s lawyer is any good, he&#039;ll probably tell her it&#039;s foolish not to ask for a dime from him for child support, at least. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>But we don&acirc;&euro;&trade;t know that anybody saw anything. </em> </p>
<p>Not yet, although I find it hard to believe absolutely nobody else knew.  But the likelihood of their being found out would have increased with every further encounter.  Especially with at least one of them, if not both, falling in love. </p>
<p>And agreed, we haven&#039;t seen Betty say yes to anything yet, just not saying no.  If Betty&#039;s lawyer is any good, he&#039;ll probably tell her it&#039;s foolish not to ask for a dime from him for child support, at least.</p>
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		<title>By: not_Bridget</title>
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		<dc:creator>not_Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don &amp; Suzanne certainly didn&#039;t act discreet about their relationship.  But we don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt; that anybody saw anything. 
 
We know that the Junior League threw Betty at Henry--although they thought she&#039;d only bat her eyes a few times to get their point across.  Francine definitely thought something was up &amp; will gladly spread the word. 
 
Betty did not agree when Henry said she should only depend on him; she just sat there.  No matter what Don had been up to, she needs to arrange a sensible settlement.  After all, &lt;i&gt;her&lt;/i&gt; people know how to handle money. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don &amp; Suzanne certainly didn&#039;t act discreet about their relationship.  But we don&#039;t <i>know</i> that anybody saw anything. </p>
<p>We know that the Junior League threw Betty at Henry&#8211;although they thought she&#039;d only bat her eyes a few times to get their point across.  Francine definitely thought something was up &amp; will gladly spread the word. </p>
<p>Betty did not agree when Henry said she should only depend on him; she just sat there.  No matter what Don had been up to, she needs to arrange a sensible settlement.  After all, <i>her</i> people know how to handle money.</p>
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		<title>By: Meowser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;We know the men that fight divorces&#226;&#8364;&#8220;we usually call them assholes. Don was being generous instead of vicious. &lt;/em&gt; 
 
That&#039;s true, but it did seem to me that he was falling in love with Suzanne, and that the only reason he didn&#039;t continue the relationship was that he&#039;d really be screwed in every way if he did.  Betty&#039;s finding the box threw the cold water at him, so to speak.  I think he valued the structure that marriage to Betty gave him, and (almost) daily contact with his children, and was upset to lose that, but I&#039;m not sure he felt a whole lot for &lt;em&gt;her&lt;/em&gt; by that point.  The kids, yeah.  Her, I don&#039;t know about, although I&#039;m sure he did once.  They did seem a million miles away from each other, even before she found the box. 
 
Heck, I&#039;m still thinking Betty is going to hear scuttlebutt about Suzanne, and that will change her mind about taking him to the cleaners. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>We know the men that fight divorces&acirc;&euro;&ldquo;we usually call them assholes. Don was being generous instead of vicious. </em> </p>
<p>That&#039;s true, but it did seem to me that he was falling in love with Suzanne, and that the only reason he didn&#039;t continue the relationship was that he&#039;d really be screwed in every way if he did.  Betty&#039;s finding the box threw the cold water at him, so to speak.  I think he valued the structure that marriage to Betty gave him, and (almost) daily contact with his children, and was upset to lose that, but I&#039;m not sure he felt a whole lot for <em>her</em> by that point.  The kids, yeah.  Her, I don&#039;t know about, although I&#039;m sure he did once.  They did seem a million miles away from each other, even before she found the box. </p>
<p>Heck, I&#039;m still thinking Betty is going to hear scuttlebutt about Suzanne, and that will change her mind about taking him to the cleaners.</p>
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