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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the beginning of the season, MW said he thought the key image for the entire season would be Don Draper&#039;s bare feet. And now, after seeing the entire season, I have (at least I think I have) a fairly good idea of why he said that. This season was all about stripping Don Draper&#039;s life down to the essentials: which means the revelation and (at least the beginning of) the integration of Don Draper/Dick Whitman into a man with, if you will pardon the expression, his feet firmly on the ground. 
 
No, this season wasn&#039;t as purely entertaining as the first two seasons, but watching the dissolution of a marriage isn&#039;t really the pure entertainment that seeing the skulduggery and infighting of a competitive workplace is. In one sense, I did find it interesting as a dramatic choice to focus more attention on Ossining this season. We rarely if ever get a story about how a marriage breaks up with this kind of depth. And, as with every serious relationship, it wasn&#039;t pretty. And no, it wasn&#039;t &quot;entertaining.&quot; 
 
But I do think it was *necessary*, at least in terms of the story MW seems to want to present: which I believe (particularly this season), is how a man with a fractured personality grows up. I know that that process can happen in two ways (often simultaneously): a slow evolution, with some periods of radical change, usually brought about by a crisis. 
 
The other thing that I haven&#039;t seen anyone mention is how this season&#039;s finale links so well to the the tarot card reading from last season. I&#039;ve been reading Tarot for decades, and I was really impressed by the layout of cards they chose for that reading. Anna explained that the key to the reading was The World or, more specifically, Don&#039;s belief that he was all alone in the world, and that it was this which was keeping him from being happy. 
 
Well, a man who can say to Peggy, &quot;Will you help me?&quot; is a man who has been stripped of his illusion that he has to do everything on his own. He has begun that integration in the workplace world. It will be interesting to see if/how that continues and if he is also able to do the same kind of growing/healing in his personal life. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the beginning of the season, MW said he thought the key image for the entire season would be Don Draper&#039;s bare feet. And now, after seeing the entire season, I have (at least I think I have) a fairly good idea of why he said that. This season was all about stripping Don Draper&#039;s life down to the essentials: which means the revelation and (at least the beginning of) the integration of Don Draper/Dick Whitman into a man with, if you will pardon the expression, his feet firmly on the ground. </p>
<p>No, this season wasn&#039;t as purely entertaining as the first two seasons, but watching the dissolution of a marriage isn&#039;t really the pure entertainment that seeing the skulduggery and infighting of a competitive workplace is. In one sense, I did find it interesting as a dramatic choice to focus more attention on Ossining this season. We rarely if ever get a story about how a marriage breaks up with this kind of depth. And, as with every serious relationship, it wasn&#039;t pretty. And no, it wasn&#039;t &quot;entertaining.&quot; </p>
<p>But I do think it was *necessary*, at least in terms of the story MW seems to want to present: which I believe (particularly this season), is how a man with a fractured personality grows up. I know that that process can happen in two ways (often simultaneously): a slow evolution, with some periods of radical change, usually brought about by a crisis. </p>
<p>The other thing that I haven&#039;t seen anyone mention is how this season&#039;s finale links so well to the the tarot card reading from last season. I&#039;ve been reading Tarot for decades, and I was really impressed by the layout of cards they chose for that reading. Anna explained that the key to the reading was The World or, more specifically, Don&#039;s belief that he was all alone in the world, and that it was this which was keeping him from being happy. </p>
<p>Well, a man who can say to Peggy, &quot;Will you help me?&quot; is a man who has been stripped of his illusion that he has to do everything on his own. He has begun that integration in the workplace world. It will be interesting to see if/how that continues and if he is also able to do the same kind of growing/healing in his personal life.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about it, the insistence on including the Kennedy episode is to blame for much of the season-long slowdown; it was like all of the action had to wait until after Dallas because they needed to have both Sterling Cooper and the Draper family still intact in order to show everyone impressively frowning. This could have been avoided by either bypassing the entire year; or if they insisted on dealing with it, by beginning the season in late 1963, and have the Kennedy thing occur in the 2nd or 3rd episode, and all the plot points would have been free to unroll in the wake of the event and into early 1964. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about it, the insistence on including the Kennedy episode is to blame for much of the season-long slowdown; it was like all of the action had to wait until after Dallas because they needed to have both Sterling Cooper and the Draper family still intact in order to show everyone impressively frowning. This could have been avoided by either bypassing the entire year; or if they insisted on dealing with it, by beginning the season in late 1963, and have the Kennedy thing occur in the 2nd or 3rd episode, and all the plot points would have been free to unroll in the wake of the event and into early 1964.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. They are already shooting season 4--it will start back up in about three weeks. 
 
(Does that really help? Really?) 
 
Btw, I totally get the phantom limb thing, but it&#039;s especially apropos, no? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. They are already shooting season 4&#8211;it will start back up in about three weeks. </p>
<p>(Does that really help? Really?) </p>
<p>Btw, I totally get the phantom limb thing, but it&#039;s especially apropos, no?</p>
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		<title>By: sommgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>sommgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure where to post this - just want to say I&#039;m having total phantom limb syndrome tonight without MM at 10.  JJ on SNL last night just didn&#039;t cut it for me.  Please tell me they&#039;re already shooting season 4 - Deborah?  Roberta?  Anybody?!? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure where to post this &#8211; just want to say I&#039;m having total phantom limb syndrome tonight without MM at 10.  JJ on SNL last night just didn&#039;t cut it for me.  Please tell me they&#039;re already shooting season 4 &#8211; Deborah?  Roberta?  Anybody?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GMW, that&#039;s it exactly, and I didn&#039;t have her history to taint my view. Sometimes the difference between good and great is subtle, but it truly had its way with us via this performance. 
 
Here&#039;s the other thing about Roger, re Jane--he&#039;s gotta be bored. Jane may be intelligent, but I doubt she&#039;s interesting to Roger. I know we&#039;re all looking at Joan, but also, look at Mona--these are two women who can hold their own when it comes to sharp, witty rapport. We haven&#039;t seen much of Jane, but not only is she young, I think she also takes herself too seriously. And I think that when he thought about retiring now, it wasn&#039;t the threat of dying in three years, but living--spending all his days with his wife. Roger needs a job! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GMW, that&#039;s it exactly, and I didn&#039;t have her history to taint my view. Sometimes the difference between good and great is subtle, but it truly had its way with us via this performance. </p>
<p>Here&#039;s the other thing about Roger, re Jane&#8211;he&#039;s gotta be bored. Jane may be intelligent, but I doubt she&#039;s interesting to Roger. I know we&#039;re all looking at Joan, but also, look at Mona&#8211;these are two women who can hold their own when it comes to sharp, witty rapport. We haven&#039;t seen much of Jane, but not only is she young, I think she also takes herself too seriously. And I think that when he thought about retiring now, it wasn&#039;t the threat of dying in three years, but living&#8211;spending all his days with his wife. Roger needs a job!</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Mills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Roberta.  I have been scratching my head abit too.  I&#039;ve asked the question in other posts here: why is Don so angry with Roger b/c he wasn&#039;t angry when he first heard about the sale; he seemed a little delighted to be getting $500,000 as his share?  However, he began increasingly more angry w/Roger until their &quot;blow up&quot; at the Kentucky Derby.  I get it... macho, balls cut off, slowly realizing he was nothing more than a &quot;ping pong ball&quot; (isn&#039;t that what he said to Bert Cooper daring him to buy back the company instead of &quot;sealing himself up in his golden coffin&quot; and taking the young men with him?).  Excellent post, as always. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Roberta.  I have been scratching my head abit too.  I&#039;ve asked the question in other posts here: why is Don so angry with Roger b/c he wasn&#039;t angry when he first heard about the sale; he seemed a little delighted to be getting $500,000 as his share?  However, he began increasingly more angry w/Roger until their &quot;blow up&quot; at the Kentucky Derby.  I get it&#8230; macho, balls cut off, slowly realizing he was nothing more than a &quot;ping pong ball&quot; (isn&#039;t that what he said to Bert Cooper daring him to buy back the company instead of &quot;sealing himself up in his golden coffin&quot; and taking the young men with him?).  Excellent post, as always.</p>
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		<title>By: GladMadWoman</title>
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		<dc:creator>GladMadWoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to see Abigail Spencer on All My Children a number of years ago and I could never shake the image of her as a soap actress when I was watching her on Mad Men. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to see Abigail Spencer on All My Children a number of years ago and I could never shake the image of her as a soap actress when I was watching her on Mad Men.</p>
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		<title>By: CLIFFROBIN</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/11/13/productive/comment-page-2/#comment-41188</link>
		<dc:creator>CLIFFROBIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main reason Don wanted to start a new company was.. 
.. he wanted to be free of his contract!  (just kidding) 
 
I loved looking at the group from Dons point of view, I felt like there is hope! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main reason Don wanted to start a new company was..<br />
.. he wanted to be free of his contract!  (just kidding) </p>
<p>I loved looking at the group from Dons point of view, I felt like there is hope!</p>
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		<title>By: Meowser</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/11/13/productive/comment-page-2/#comment-41187</link>
		<dc:creator>Meowser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Roger/Annabelle thing was interesting because he makes it sound to her like he&#039;s passionately in love with his wife, which is the thing he&#039;s been insisting to everyone all along -- yet, in the very next episode, what do we see?  Him and Jane fighting bitterly, and definitely NOT for the first time, and him dumping her drunken ass mirthlessly on the bed.  You wonder how long he&#039;s been BS-ing the whole world about their blissful union. 
 
I had no trouble seeing what was happening to Don work-wise:  He&#039;s in a slump, which may or may not be temporary.  At some point, almost every creative person who&#039;s been financially successful loses touch with the public&#039;s taste, and either gets it back later or doesn&#039;t. 
 
Don is coming out of a period where he hardly had to try, pearls just spilled out of his mouth and what he had to offer was exactly what clients wanted.  Now they, like everyone else around him (including his kids!), are demanding more of him.  Three years ago, he could scarcely have imagined a client grumbling, &quot;But I wanted the moon!&quot;  Things are changing at a dizzying speed, and they&#039;re not going to change back. 
 
The fact that he reaches out to Peggy and Pete (and I think the Suzanne affair had something to do with this too) means he&#039;s aware that he&#039;s having trouble keeping up all by himself and doesn&#039;t really understand what&#039;s going on out there.  (Certainly Betty couldn&#039;t tell him; she&#039;s even more conservative than he is.) You wonder how Mr. Take Your Hat Off In The Elevator is going to deal with hippie rebellion when it takes over the culture (or at least New York) for real, when it becomes more than just an amusing diversion for him.  In the 1960s, you couldn&#039;t love Sinatra AND the MC5; you had to pick. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Roger/Annabelle thing was interesting because he makes it sound to her like he&#039;s passionately in love with his wife, which is the thing he&#039;s been insisting to everyone all along &#8212; yet, in the very next episode, what do we see?  Him and Jane fighting bitterly, and definitely NOT for the first time, and him dumping her drunken ass mirthlessly on the bed.  You wonder how long he&#039;s been BS-ing the whole world about their blissful union. </p>
<p>I had no trouble seeing what was happening to Don work-wise:  He&#039;s in a slump, which may or may not be temporary.  At some point, almost every creative person who&#039;s been financially successful loses touch with the public&#039;s taste, and either gets it back later or doesn&#039;t. </p>
<p>Don is coming out of a period where he hardly had to try, pearls just spilled out of his mouth and what he had to offer was exactly what clients wanted.  Now they, like everyone else around him (including his kids!), are demanding more of him.  Three years ago, he could scarcely have imagined a client grumbling, &quot;But I wanted the moon!&quot;  Things are changing at a dizzying speed, and they&#039;re not going to change back. </p>
<p>The fact that he reaches out to Peggy and Pete (and I think the Suzanne affair had something to do with this too) means he&#039;s aware that he&#039;s having trouble keeping up all by himself and doesn&#039;t really understand what&#039;s going on out there.  (Certainly Betty couldn&#039;t tell him; she&#039;s even more conservative than he is.) You wonder how Mr. Take Your Hat Off In The Elevator is going to deal with hippie rebellion when it takes over the culture (or at least New York) for real, when it becomes more than just an amusing diversion for him.  In the 1960s, you couldn&#039;t love Sinatra AND the MC5; you had to pick.</p>
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		<title>By: kassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering about something earlier in the season when we ( I should say all of you guys) were discussing the lack of Don&#039;s creativity, there was no Kodak moment etc. Do you think the letter (sigh) he wrote Betty at the end of season 2 was such a huge sell job for him that it pooped him out creatively? I&#039;ve been thinking that he seemed creatively exhausted all season and the exhaustion coupled with the loss of power led to his problems at work this season. He&#039;s bouncing back though and I am sooo excited for S4! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering about something earlier in the season when we ( I should say all of you guys) were discussing the lack of Don&#039;s creativity, there was no Kodak moment etc. Do you think the letter (sigh) he wrote Betty at the end of season 2 was such a huge sell job for him that it pooped him out creatively? I&#039;ve been thinking that he seemed creatively exhausted all season and the exhaustion coupled with the loss of power led to his problems at work this season. He&#039;s bouncing back though and I am sooo excited for S4!</p>
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