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		<title>By: Mad Men Francophone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Men Francophone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 08:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree there are common things between Marnie and this Mad Men episode. 
 
I wrote (in french, sorry but there are pictures) some lines about Marnie and Mad Men here : &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.web-et-cinema.com/12-mad-men-the-grown-ups-s03e12.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.web-et-cinema.com/12-mad-men-the-grown...&lt;/a&gt; 
To say it in english, let&#039;s say that the moment when Betsy meets Henry in the car really made me think about a shot in Marnie. And in Mad Men, at this moment you can here... The birds... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree there are common things between Marnie and this Mad Men episode. </p>
<p>I wrote (in french, sorry but there are pictures) some lines about Marnie and Mad Men here : <a target="_blank" href="http://www.web-et-cinema.com/12-mad-men-the-grown-ups-s03e12.html"  rel="nofollow">http://www.web-et-cinema.com/12-mad-men-the-grown&#8230;</a><br />
To say it in english, let&#039;s say that the moment when Betsy meets Henry in the car really made me think about a shot in Marnie. And in Mad Men, at this moment you can here&#8230; The birds&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Maul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Maul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38 and 39... In &lt;b&gt;The Jet Set&lt;/b&gt;, after Don wakes up, Joy&#039;s friends jokingly suggest that they thought he was a spy until a search of his wallet proved he was in advertising. Don laughs and ironically replies that the contents of his wallet may only prove him to be a good spy. In NBNW, trying to convice James Mason and Martin Landau that he&#039;s not really a spy, Cary Grant takes out his wallet and points to various pieces of identification. Unconvinced, Landau dismisses the documents and coyly tells him that &#226;&#8364;&#339;they provide you with such good ones.&#226;&#8364; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38 and 39&#8230; In <b>The Jet Set</b>, after Don wakes up, Joy&#039;s friends jokingly suggest that they thought he was a spy until a search of his wallet proved he was in advertising. Don laughs and ironically replies that the contents of his wallet may only prove him to be a good spy. In NBNW, trying to convice James Mason and Martin Landau that he&#039;s not really a spy, Cary Grant takes out his wallet and points to various pieces of identification. Unconvinced, Landau dismisses the documents and coyly tells him that &acirc;&euro;&oelig;they provide you with such good ones.&acirc;&euro;</p>
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		<title>By: 25framesaminute</title>
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		<dc:creator>25framesaminute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38 NBNW was heavily discussed in the episode in season two where Don and Bobbie have the car accident. Don at the police station echoed Roger Townsend at the Glen Cove station. 
 
Not directly tied into NBNW, but Archibald is Cary Grant&#039;s real name; Cary was sort of a hobo; a Cockney member of a traveling circus troupe. Thinking of Hitchcock, he was a Catholic and Cockney and Chaplin had a miserable childhood (I believe he is part Jewish). 
 
Great insights into Vertigo. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38 NBNW was heavily discussed in the episode in season two where Don and Bobbie have the car accident. Don at the police station echoed Roger Townsend at the Glen Cove station. </p>
<p>Not directly tied into NBNW, but Archibald is Cary Grant&#039;s real name; Cary was sort of a hobo; a Cockney member of a traveling circus troupe. Thinking of Hitchcock, he was a Catholic and Cockney and Chaplin had a miserable childhood (I believe he is part Jewish). </p>
<p>Great insights into Vertigo.</p>
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		<title>By: Empress Rouge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Empress Rouge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of North by Northwest, I&#039;m surprised the show hasn&#039;t had many parallels with that film, compared to others.  The movie was about a Madison Avenue ad man with a case of mistaken identity, and the movie came out one year before the beginning of the show. 
 
Actually, I find the end of the season has many references to Vertigo, especially in &quot;The Gypsy and the Hobo&quot; and &quot;Shut the door. Have a seat.&quot;  Most obvious it the revelation of Don/Dick identities, like Kim Novak&#039;s Madeleine/Judy character.  Blonde Betty wears a lot of grey in &quot;TG&amp;tH&quot; (an off color for a blonde) just like just like Madeleine and blond Judy wears the famous grey suit throughout most of the movie.  Suzanne wears different shades of green just like the sweater dress Scottie first spies Judy in.  Incidentally, it is obvious the busty Judy is not wearing a bra underneath, just like Suzanne likes to go au naturel jogging under the Bowdoin shirt. 
 
Then there&#039;s the rejection when true identities are revealed.  Betty rejects Dick; Scottie rejects Judy.  And Scottie and Don both have violent reactions when they discover/assume their perfect blond ice queens have whored themselves to another man. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of North by Northwest, I&#039;m surprised the show hasn&#039;t had many parallels with that film, compared to others.  The movie was about a Madison Avenue ad man with a case of mistaken identity, and the movie came out one year before the beginning of the show. </p>
<p>Actually, I find the end of the season has many references to Vertigo, especially in &quot;The Gypsy and the Hobo&quot; and &quot;Shut the door. Have a seat.&quot;  Most obvious it the revelation of Don/Dick identities, like Kim Novak&#039;s Madeleine/Judy character.  Blonde Betty wears a lot of grey in &quot;TG&amp;tH&quot; (an off color for a blonde) just like just like Madeleine and blond Judy wears the famous grey suit throughout most of the movie.  Suzanne wears different shades of green just like the sweater dress Scottie first spies Judy in.  Incidentally, it is obvious the busty Judy is not wearing a bra underneath, just like Suzanne likes to go au naturel jogging under the Bowdoin shirt. </p>
<p>Then there&#039;s the rejection when true identities are revealed.  Betty rejects Dick; Scottie rejects Judy.  And Scottie and Don both have violent reactions when they discover/assume their perfect blond ice queens have whored themselves to another man.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Hillary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Hillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Landau&#039;s character Leonard goes so far as to cite his own &quot;woman&#039;s intuition&quot; when he explains to Van Damm that he doesn&#039;t trust Eve Kendall. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Landau&#039;s character Leonard goes so far as to cite his own &quot;woman&#039;s intuition&quot; when he explains to Van Damm that he doesn&#039;t trust Eve Kendall.</p>
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		<title>By: Empress Rouge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Empress Rouge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35 - From the commentary for Rope: &quot;But production codes of the time insisted that anything smacking of overt homosexuality be struck from the script, and Jimmy Stewart &#039;never had an affair with anyone; he was just a Boy Scout.&quot; So by the end result, Laurents says, Rope was &quot;curiously off-focus and didn&#039;t have the sexual center that it should have.&#039;&quot; 
 
I don&#039;t know about any rumors about Stewart&#039;s sexuality, but one of the reasons cited for Rope&#039;s initial flop was the inability of the audience to believe him to be gay.  Cary Grant was rumored to be bi-sexual because during his early career, he shared a home with Randolph Scott in Hollywood.  Cary Grant was actually Hitch&#039;s first choice to play Cadell, having worked with him twice before. 
 
I&#039;ve also heard about Martin Landau&#039;s character&#039;s orientation in North by Northwest.  Certainly, his attraction towards James Mason&#039;s character would explain why he was so suspicious of and out to get the mistress (Eva Marie Saint). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 &#8211; From the commentary for Rope: &quot;But production codes of the time insisted that anything smacking of overt homosexuality be struck from the script, and Jimmy Stewart &#039;never had an affair with anyone; he was just a Boy Scout.&quot; So by the end result, Laurents says, Rope was &quot;curiously off-focus and didn&#039;t have the sexual center that it should have.&#039;&quot; </p>
<p>I don&#039;t know about any rumors about Stewart&#039;s sexuality, but one of the reasons cited for Rope&#039;s initial flop was the inability of the audience to believe him to be gay.  Cary Grant was rumored to be bi-sexual because during his early career, he shared a home with Randolph Scott in Hollywood.  Cary Grant was actually Hitch&#039;s first choice to play Cadell, having worked with him twice before. </p>
<p>I&#039;ve also heard about Martin Landau&#039;s character&#039;s orientation in North by Northwest.  Certainly, his attraction towards James Mason&#039;s character would explain why he was so suspicious of and out to get the mistress (Eva Marie Saint).</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Maul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Maul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 9 Empress Rouge... great list.  The sailor reference is particularly good! 
 
# 29 Aran...&lt;i&gt;The Hays Office was keeping close tabs on the project, the final script was so discreet that Stewart never realized his character was gay.&lt;/i&gt; 
 
That&#039;s interesting.  Though, had he known, I wonder if Stewart would have still done the movie.  Weren&#039;t there rumors about Stewart&#039;s sexuality floated early in his career? 
 
FWIW, I&#039;ve heard Martin Landau say in interviews that when he made &lt;b&gt;North by Northwest&lt;/b&gt;, Hitchcock told him the character he was to play was a homosexual. 
 
But getting back to filmmakers not understanding the script, Robert Wise DIRECTED the original &lt;b&gt;The Day The Earth Stood Still&lt;/b&gt; and never realized that Klaatu was supposed to be Jesus Christ.  I&#039;ve always gotten a hoot out of that one! :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 9 Empress Rouge&#8230; great list.  The sailor reference is particularly good! </p>
<p># 29 Aran&#8230;<i>The Hays Office was keeping close tabs on the project, the final script was so discreet that Stewart never realized his character was gay.</i> </p>
<p>That&#039;s interesting.  Though, had he known, I wonder if Stewart would have still done the movie.  Weren&#039;t there rumors about Stewart&#039;s sexuality floated early in his career? </p>
<p>FWIW, I&#039;ve heard Martin Landau say in interviews that when he made <b>North by Northwest</b>, Hitchcock told him the character he was to play was a homosexual. </p>
<p>But getting back to filmmakers not understanding the script, Robert Wise DIRECTED the original <b>The Day The Earth Stood Still</b> and never realized that Klaatu was supposed to be Jesus Christ.  I&#039;ve always gotten a hoot out of that one! <img src='http://www.lippsisters.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Red Velvet Shoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Red Velvet Shoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just wondering if anyone else noticed that Betty&#039;s nails were painted a vicious RED in the &quot;Family Scene&quot; when she and Don broke the news to the children...it almost looked scary on her...but at the same time it says so much...I&#039;m certain this was not by accident knowing Mr. Weiner! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just wondering if anyone else noticed that Betty&#039;s nails were painted a vicious RED in the &quot;Family Scene&quot; when she and Don broke the news to the children&#8230;it almost looked scary on her&#8230;but at the same time it says so much&#8230;I&#039;m certain this was not by accident knowing Mr. Weiner!</p>
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		<title>By: not_Bridget</title>
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		<dc:creator>not_Bridget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s the 60&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s and as long as the kids are being taken care of: fed, bathed, clothed and taken to school that was good enough. The emotional needs of children were not always put first. If the basics were being taken care then that was considered good enough. Today there&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s literally thousands of books written about children and how to emotionally nuture them. In 1963 there was Dr. Spock. End of story.&lt;/i&gt; 
 
Benjamin Spock&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Baby and Child Care&lt;/i&gt; was published in 1946.  It was far from the first book on child care, but was immediately popular &amp; became mainstream very quickly. 
 
&lt;i&gt;Spock&#039;s ideas have become such a part and parcel of the parenting landscape that it&#039;s easy to forget how revolutionary they were. In post-war America, parents were in awe of doctors and other childcare professionals; Spock assured them that parents were the true experts on their own children. They had been told that picking up infants when they cried would only spoil them; Spock countered that cuddling babies and bestowing affection on children would only make them happier and more secure. Instead of adhering to strict, one-size-fits-all dictates on everything from discipline to toilet training, Spock urged parents to be flexible and see their children as individuals. 
 
Perhaps most revolutionary of all, he suggested that parenting could be fun, that mothers and fathers could actually enjoy their children and steer a course in which their own needs and wishes also were met. All this and much more, including a wealth of helpful medical advice, was delivered in a friendly, reassuring, and common-sense manner completely at odds with the cold authoritarianism favored by most other parenting books of the time.&lt;/i&gt; 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drspock.com/about/drbenjaminspock/0,1781,,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.drspock.com/about/drbenjaminspock/0,17...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
Later, Benjamin Spock came out against the Vietnam war and in favor of ideas like decriminalizing abortion &amp; homosexuality.  So the warmongers began calling his theories &quot;permissive&quot;--note that &quot;discipline&quot; is mentioned above.  He was blamed for the evils of the Boomer generation--many of whom, had, in fact, been raised by parents who&#039;d read his book--by the same people who wanted to send that generation off to die. A generation who honored their own fathers&#039; battles in the past &amp; realized that this was A Different War. 
 
In the first season, Francine mentioned a book on child care she&#039;d been reading, in answer to Betty bitching about her evil son; probably not Spock, since they keep publishing the stuff.  Betty snippily answered that she didn&#039;t need to read a book to know what little boys wanted. 
 
Poor Betty--she was going to raise her kids exactly as she had been raised.  After all, she turned out &lt;i&gt;just fine&lt;/i&gt;! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It&acirc;&euro;&trade;s the 60&acirc;&euro;&trade;s and as long as the kids are being taken care of: fed, bathed, clothed and taken to school that was good enough. The emotional needs of children were not always put first. If the basics were being taken care then that was considered good enough. Today there&acirc;&euro;&trade;s literally thousands of books written about children and how to emotionally nuture them. In 1963 there was Dr. Spock. End of story.</i> </p>
<p>Benjamin Spock&#039;s <i>Baby and Child Care</i> was published in 1946.  It was far from the first book on child care, but was immediately popular &amp; became mainstream very quickly. </p>
<p><i>Spock&#039;s ideas have become such a part and parcel of the parenting landscape that it&#039;s easy to forget how revolutionary they were. In post-war America, parents were in awe of doctors and other childcare professionals; Spock assured them that parents were the true experts on their own children. They had been told that picking up infants when they cried would only spoil them; Spock countered that cuddling babies and bestowing affection on children would only make them happier and more secure. Instead of adhering to strict, one-size-fits-all dictates on everything from discipline to toilet training, Spock urged parents to be flexible and see their children as individuals. </p>
<p>Perhaps most revolutionary of all, he suggested that parenting could be fun, that mothers and fathers could actually enjoy their children and steer a course in which their own needs and wishes also were met. All this and much more, including a wealth of helpful medical advice, was delivered in a friendly, reassuring, and common-sense manner completely at odds with the cold authoritarianism favored by most other parenting books of the time.</i><br />
  <a target="_blank" href="http://www.drspock.com/about/drbenjaminspock/0,1781,,00.html"  rel="nofollow">http://www.drspock.com/about/drbenjaminspock/0,17&#8230;</a> </p>
<p>Later, Benjamin Spock came out against the Vietnam war and in favor of ideas like decriminalizing abortion &amp; homosexuality.  So the warmongers began calling his theories &quot;permissive&quot;&#8211;note that &quot;discipline&quot; is mentioned above.  He was blamed for the evils of the Boomer generation&#8211;many of whom, had, in fact, been raised by parents who&#039;d read his book&#8211;by the same people who wanted to send that generation off to die. A generation who honored their own fathers&#039; battles in the past &amp; realized that this was A Different War. </p>
<p>In the first season, Francine mentioned a book on child care she&#039;d been reading, in answer to Betty bitching about her evil son; probably not Spock, since they keep publishing the stuff.  Betty snippily answered that she didn&#039;t need to read a book to know what little boys wanted. </p>
<p>Poor Betty&#8211;she was going to raise her kids exactly as she had been raised.  After all, she turned out <i>just fine</i>!</p>
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		<title>By: gypsy howell</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grandma Bea, you should get together with Midge and start a greeting card company! </description>
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