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		<title>By: MD Man</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/11/10/don-kicks-in-the-door/comment-page-2/#comment-40677</link>
		<dc:creator>MD Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scot - I noticed that too.  For a second, I thought they were going to start passionately kissing! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scot &#8211; I noticed that too.  For a second, I thought they were going to start passionately kissing!</p>
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		<title>By: gypsy howell</title>
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		<dc:creator>gypsy howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhhh scot.  You must join us at the bottom of the Rude Awakenings thread.  Fights are breaking out! Fists are flying! Names are being called! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhhh scot.  You must join us at the bottom of the Rude Awakenings thread.  Fights are breaking out! Fists are flying! Names are being called!</p>
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		<title>By: Scot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone else notice what seemed to be a twinge of desire that came over Don after he called Betty a whore?  In the moments that the camera lingered on his face after he pushed her away, it appeared that there was a fleeting element of lust. Interesting dynamic. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else notice what seemed to be a twinge of desire that came over Don after he called Betty a whore?  In the moments that the camera lingered on his face after he pushed her away, it appeared that there was a fleeting element of lust. Interesting dynamic.</p>
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		<title>By: Darkwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darkwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have I missed it or is everybody forgetting about Freddy Rumsen?  He and Don have some backstory and I&#039;ll be amazed if he is not back for season four! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have I missed it or is everybody forgetting about Freddy Rumsen?  He and Don have some backstory and I&#039;ll be amazed if he is not back for season four!</p>
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		<title>By: Darkwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darkwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have I missed it our is everybody forgetting about Freddy Rumsen?  He and Don have some backstory and I&#039;ll be amazed if he is not back for season four! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have I missed it our is everybody forgetting about Freddy Rumsen?  He and Don have some backstory and I&#039;ll be amazed if he is not back for season four!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Gypsy, esme, duane, and Melville, - Thanks for the help. It makes sense now that you guys put the pieces together. I like the aspect that Don sees himself and Peggy as kindered spirits, Melville. That works in my view. Remember the time he compared her to Irene Dunn? And their feelings for each other are deep and unspeakable. Great acting.  Thank you for help. Sometimes I need to share a brain! And Gypsy, you crack me up on your take on Henry Frances. Thanks. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Gypsy, esme, duane, and Melville, &#8211; Thanks for the help. It makes sense now that you guys put the pieces together. I like the aspect that Don sees himself and Peggy as kindered spirits, Melville. That works in my view. Remember the time he compared her to Irene Dunn? And their feelings for each other are deep and unspeakable. Great acting.  Thank you for help. Sometimes I need to share a brain! And Gypsy, you crack me up on your take on Henry Frances. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Melville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^Ooops, forgot to also cite esme&#039;s comment #56. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^Ooops, forgot to also cite esme&#039;s comment #56.</p>
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		<title>By: Melville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Susan #52, (+ 53, 55, 64) 
 
I saw it as a very Don way of seeing the world. His genius as an ad man (one that Peggy shares) is that he can draw from himself and relate it to the world at large. When he talks about the terrible thing that happened to the world i.e. the Kennedy assassination, he knows that only someone who has already experienced such a terrible dislocation in their personal life AND knows how to use it (as Peggy can, and as he can), will be able to communicate in the new world coming. 
 
As for the over-subtlety. that&#039;s a very Mad Men thing, especially in the Don/Peggy relationship. Their secrets are so sensitive to them that, even between each other, they can&#039;t come out and speak them directly. 
 
I have to add that the scene was also the first expression of true affection between the two. I never quite felt any father/daughter-like bond between them before, but when Peggy said &quot;you&#039;ll never speak to me again,&quot; I welled up right along with her. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Susan #52, (+ 53, 55, 64) </p>
<p>I saw it as a very Don way of seeing the world. His genius as an ad man (one that Peggy shares) is that he can draw from himself and relate it to the world at large. When he talks about the terrible thing that happened to the world i.e. the Kennedy assassination, he knows that only someone who has already experienced such a terrible dislocation in their personal life AND knows how to use it (as Peggy can, and as he can), will be able to communicate in the new world coming. </p>
<p>As for the over-subtlety. that&#039;s a very Mad Men thing, especially in the Don/Peggy relationship. Their secrets are so sensitive to them that, even between each other, they can&#039;t come out and speak them directly. </p>
<p>I have to add that the scene was also the first expression of true affection between the two. I never quite felt any father/daughter-like bond between them before, but when Peggy said &quot;you&#039;ll never speak to me again,&quot; I welled up right along with her.</p>
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		<title>By: gypsy howell</title>
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		<dc:creator>gypsy howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Someone said that Harry was the only one who didn&#226;&#8364;&#8482;t get a sales pitch. Maybe so, but he got his motivation, which was Bert&#226;&#8364;&#8482;s attention.&lt;/i&gt; 
 
Bert made the sales pitch to Harry - he could join SCDP as Head of Media or go to McCann as a mid-level cog in their machine. Harry already complained to Pete in the last ep that he was going to die unnoticed behind the desk at SC.  Bert pushed exactly the right button. 
 
Here&#039;s how I interpreted Don&#039;s conversation with Peggy (YMMV): 
 
He didn&#039;t say they were SELLING things, he said &quot;people BUY things.&quot; As in, people buy a certain vision of themselves in the world, a vision of who they are, of how the world is supposed to work.  And then something terrible happens and that image is destroyed. Parts of yourself are lost forever. He and Peggy understand that and know how to tap into that void.  They can speak to the deep need inside people to make their world whole again, because they&#039;ve experienced it. 
That&#039;s a very rare and very valuable talent. 
 
That was my take on it, anyway.  I think the scene could have been written a little better.  What&#039;s the point of dialog that leaves so many people saying &quot;WTF was that supposed to mean?&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Someone said that Harry was the only one who didn&acirc;&euro;&trade;t get a sales pitch. Maybe so, but he got his motivation, which was Bert&acirc;&euro;&trade;s attention.</i> </p>
<p>Bert made the sales pitch to Harry &#8211; he could join SCDP as Head of Media or go to McCann as a mid-level cog in their machine. Harry already complained to Pete in the last ep that he was going to die unnoticed behind the desk at SC.  Bert pushed exactly the right button. </p>
<p>Here&#039;s how I interpreted Don&#039;s conversation with Peggy (YMMV): </p>
<p>He didn&#039;t say they were SELLING things, he said &quot;people BUY things.&quot; As in, people buy a certain vision of themselves in the world, a vision of who they are, of how the world is supposed to work.  And then something terrible happens and that image is destroyed. Parts of yourself are lost forever. He and Peggy understand that and know how to tap into that void.  They can speak to the deep need inside people to make their world whole again, because they&#039;ve experienced it.<br />
That&#039;s a very rare and very valuable talent. </p>
<p>That was my take on it, anyway.  I think the scene could have been written a little better.  What&#039;s the point of dialog that leaves so many people saying &quot;WTF was that supposed to mean?&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about when Paul goes to Peggy&#039;s office door and finds she&#039;s left with Don?  That look on his face! I think Paul just lost his reason for coming to work. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about when Paul goes to Peggy&#039;s office door and finds she&#039;s left with Don?  That look on his face! I think Paul just lost his reason for coming to work.</p>
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