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		<title>By: 25framesaminute</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2009/09/29/mad-news-september-24-29-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-32209</link>
		<dc:creator>25framesaminute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 22:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mad Men is the cover story in the October issue of American Cinematographer, volume 90, no. 10. Great background information on the lighting and the sets. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mad Men is the cover story in the October issue of American Cinematographer, volume 90, no. 10. Great background information on the lighting and the sets.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PDB, that&#039;s an interesting observation. It&#039;s a lot like saying &quot;Stripped of its great writing and direction, it seems like a fairly typical primetime drama.&#226;&#8364; That&#039;s also true, you know. If it wasn&#039;t brilliantly written it would be, what? A philandering husband, an accidental pregnancy. There are no new plots since Shakespeare, after all. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PDB, that&#039;s an interesting observation. It&#039;s a lot like saying &quot;Stripped of its great writing and direction, it seems like a fairly typical primetime drama.&acirc;&euro; That&#039;s also true, you know. If it wasn&#039;t brilliantly written it would be, what? A philandering husband, an accidental pregnancy. There are no new plots since Shakespeare, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: PDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve an observation on Tom Parrette&#039;s piece for AdRants, tangential to the interesting comments already posted. In his concluding remarks, Parrette has the following to say: 
 
&quot;Is [Mad Men] the artistic triumph that people claim it is? I&#039;m still not convinced. Stripped of its iconic 60s couture and interiors, it seems like a fairly typical primetime drama.&quot; 
 
Perhaps branding is now understood by its practitioners as absolutely detachable from the thing branded; I&#039;m happily not in a position to comment. But as a critique of television fiction, Parrette&#039;s implication that there is an unremarkable &#039;real&#039; Mad Men, lurking beneath  clever branding, seems to me frankly wrong-headed. One might simply ignore this critique, were it not for the fact that it perpetuates a raft of ill-considered assumptions which are, alas, all too easy to run across in all kinds of television criticism, from the informal to the very formal. 
 
There is  something very slippery and dangerous about the idea that outward appearances are not intrinsic to a dramatic fiction. To say that Mad Men is remarkable  because of its exquisite visual style should not actually be to demean it, as Parrette intends, for this visual style is NOT merely the window dressing, the &#039;glamor&#039; (in the old sense of a deceiving spell). Style is intrinsic to what Mad Men is -- as it ALWAYS is in television, however apparently unremarkable that styling might superficially seem. Perversely, given his supposed area of competence, Parrette devalues visual imagery by implying that there is an &#039;interior,&#039; or something &#039;beneath&#039; the surface which can be laid bare by someone cunning enough to bypass the glamor. This is a metaphor (and a prejudice) as old as European dramatic criticism: Aristotle in his Poetics favored the &#039;inward&#039; over the &#039;spectacular,&#039; and his shadow apparently looms large over us. Parrette seems to want us to acknowledge that what we see is not really what we get with Mad Men, to jolt us out of the glamor&#039;s enthrallment. But with screen media, what you see is in a very real sense not just what you get, but ALL you get. 
 
I&#039;m probably preaching to the converted in saying all this, but the point seemed worth making, because Mad Men raises interesting issues about how as a society we seem to view &quot;authenticity&quot; -- and it&#039;s always, apparently, something &quot;stripped.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve an observation on Tom Parrette&#039;s piece for AdRants, tangential to the interesting comments already posted. In his concluding remarks, Parrette has the following to say: </p>
<p>&quot;Is [Mad Men] the artistic triumph that people claim it is? I&#039;m still not convinced. Stripped of its iconic 60s couture and interiors, it seems like a fairly typical primetime drama.&quot; </p>
<p>Perhaps branding is now understood by its practitioners as absolutely detachable from the thing branded; I&#039;m happily not in a position to comment. But as a critique of television fiction, Parrette&#039;s implication that there is an unremarkable &#039;real&#039; Mad Men, lurking beneath  clever branding, seems to me frankly wrong-headed. One might simply ignore this critique, were it not for the fact that it perpetuates a raft of ill-considered assumptions which are, alas, all too easy to run across in all kinds of television criticism, from the informal to the very formal. </p>
<p>There is  something very slippery and dangerous about the idea that outward appearances are not intrinsic to a dramatic fiction. To say that Mad Men is remarkable  because of its exquisite visual style should not actually be to demean it, as Parrette intends, for this visual style is NOT merely the window dressing, the &#039;glamor&#039; (in the old sense of a deceiving spell). Style is intrinsic to what Mad Men is &#8212; as it ALWAYS is in television, however apparently unremarkable that styling might superficially seem. Perversely, given his supposed area of competence, Parrette devalues visual imagery by implying that there is an &#039;interior,&#039; or something &#039;beneath&#039; the surface which can be laid bare by someone cunning enough to bypass the glamor. This is a metaphor (and a prejudice) as old as European dramatic criticism: Aristotle in his Poetics favored the &#039;inward&#039; over the &#039;spectacular,&#039; and his shadow apparently looms large over us. Parrette seems to want us to acknowledge that what we see is not really what we get with Mad Men, to jolt us out of the glamor&#039;s enthrallment. But with screen media, what you see is in a very real sense not just what you get, but ALL you get. </p>
<p>I&#039;m probably preaching to the converted in saying all this, but the point seemed worth making, because Mad Men raises interesting issues about how as a society we seem to view &quot;authenticity&quot; &#8212; and it&#039;s always, apparently, something &quot;stripped.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Salon piece was especially good. I do admit that this season has taken on a dramatically different tone than previous ones. It&#039;s much darker than even Season Two. 
 
That being said, MW has indicated that the show is as much about our contemporary era as it is about 1963. This has been a pretty surreal, extreme year for America in general. Can&#039;t say it&#039;s been a particularly good one, either. Maybe MW is merely reflecting the tumult and insanity that America has had to endure in 2009. 
 
I suppose there&#039;s also an argument that it was inevitable MM was going to go down this road, anyway. Dramas can&#039;t survive on the same formulas (*cough* Lost, *cough*, Desperate Housewives, *cough*) for years on end without some creative or narrative evolution anymore. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Salon piece was especially good. I do admit that this season has taken on a dramatically different tone than previous ones. It&#039;s much darker than even Season Two. </p>
<p>That being said, MW has indicated that the show is as much about our contemporary era as it is about 1963. This has been a pretty surreal, extreme year for America in general. Can&#039;t say it&#039;s been a particularly good one, either. Maybe MW is merely reflecting the tumult and insanity that America has had to endure in 2009. </p>
<p>I suppose there&#039;s also an argument that it was inevitable MM was going to go down this road, anyway. Dramas can&#039;t survive on the same formulas (*cough* Lost, *cough*, Desperate Housewives, *cough*) for years on end without some creative or narrative evolution anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: SmilerG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SmilerG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 7  -  &quot;Of course you might have been there for that same Oscar season and have differing memories.&quot; 
 
C Carroll Adams, there&#039;s really no need to be snotty. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 7  &#8211;  &quot;Of course you might have been there for that same Oscar season and have differing memories.&quot; </p>
<p>C Carroll Adams, there&#039;s really no need to be snotty.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hamm buys Mad Men DVD: 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/more_names/blog/2009/09/hamm_buys_mad_men.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/more_names/blo...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamm buys Mad Men DVD:<br />
  <a target="_blank" href="http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/more_names/blog/2009/09/hamm_buys_mad_men.html"  rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/ae/celebrity/more_names/blo&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: dancewosleeping</title>
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		<dc:creator>dancewosleeping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@8, 
Speaking as a first-generation Sesame Street kid (came on air when I was in kindergarten...we used to have field trips to the studio to watch them film) who has continued watching to this day, I must say that Mr. Draper was THE hunkiest muppet I&#039;ve ever seen! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@8,<br />
Speaking as a first-generation Sesame Street kid (came on air when I was in kindergarten&#8230;we used to have field trips to the studio to watch them film) who has continued watching to this day, I must say that Mr. Draper was THE hunkiest muppet I&#039;ve ever seen!</p>
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		<title>By: Aran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in an odd case of life imitating art ... we have January Jones going to Washington DC to lobby congress for passage of a bill which would deter shark finning in US waters, or something like that. 
 
Is it Sen. McCain, or Grandpa Gene? Hope he didn&#039;t feel her up by accident!  &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitpic.com/jq8qw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitpic.com/jq8qw&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in an odd case of life imitating art &#8230; we have January Jones going to Washington DC to lobby congress for passage of a bill which would deter shark finning in US waters, or something like that. </p>
<p>Is it Sen. McCain, or Grandpa Gene? Hope he didn&#039;t feel her up by accident!  <a target="_blank" href="http://twitpic.com/jq8qw"  rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/jq8qw</a></p>
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		<title>By: Melville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the NPR&#039;s On Point interview, Matt states that the theme for Season 3 is &quot;chaos.&quot; In her Numerology post, Deb points out that in the Tarot &quot;23 is the number of Chaos.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the NPR&#039;s On Point interview, Matt states that the theme for Season 3 is &quot;chaos.&quot; In her Numerology post, Deb points out that in the Tarot &quot;23 is the number of Chaos.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Melville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got a kick out of Michael Smerconish in the Hardball clip predicting Peggy will be head of SC in a couple more seasons.

I love it when Mad Men references show up in unlikely places. ESPN, for example. On &lt;i&gt;Pardon The Interruption&lt;/i&gt; Michael Wilbon regularly calls MM the best show on T.V. and has converted partner Tony Kornheiser to the same point of view. On &lt;i&gt;Around The Horn&lt;/i&gt;, host Tony Reali could hardly contain himself on the Monday after &quot;Guy Walks Into An Advertising Agency,&quot; expressing utter disdain for one panelist who admitted he didn&#039;t watch the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a kick out of Michael Smerconish in the Hardball clip predicting Peggy will be head of SC in a couple more seasons.</p>
<p>I love it when Mad Men references show up in unlikely places. ESPN, for example. On <i>Pardon The Interruption</i> Michael Wilbon regularly calls MM the best show on T.V. and has converted partner Tony Kornheiser to the same point of view. On <i>Around The Horn</i>, host Tony Reali could hardly contain himself on the Monday after &#8220;Guy Walks Into An Advertising Agency,&#8221; expressing utter disdain for one panelist who admitted he didn&#8217;t watch the show.</p>
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