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	<title>Comments on: Matt Weiner sums up Season 1; a bit about numb hands</title>
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		<title>By: Roberta Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know that anyone accused Helen of being a bitch, it was simply a matter of having some understanding for why Betty slapped her. Helen clearly did nothing wrong, and in fact, took measures to protect her child--discussed with the ex-husband, and laid down some rules about not to speak to Mrs. Draper. 
 
I&#039;m just saying that Betty, who genuinely feels that she did nothing wrong, could justify the slap. But underneath the surface, here is a woman (Helen) who not only represents all her own (Betty&#039;s) hopes and fears, but then kind of &#039;outs&#039; Betty as being, I dunno, a wack job? Betty feels deeply humiliated. And also is just beginning to get in touch with any sense of negative feelings, including anger. This combination is the cocktail that leads to the slap. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know that anyone accused Helen of being a bitch, it was simply a matter of having some understanding for why Betty slapped her. Helen clearly did nothing wrong, and in fact, took measures to protect her child&#8211;discussed with the ex-husband, and laid down some rules about not to speak to Mrs. Draper. </p>
<p>I&#039;m just saying that Betty, who genuinely feels that she did nothing wrong, could justify the slap. But underneath the surface, here is a woman (Helen) who not only represents all her own (Betty&#039;s) hopes and fears, but then kind of &#039;outs&#039; Betty as being, I dunno, a wack job? Betty feels deeply humiliated. And also is just beginning to get in touch with any sense of negative feelings, including anger. This combination is the cocktail that leads to the slap.</p>
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		<title>By: JMyrrh</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMyrrh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be some confusion about &quot;The Slap.&quot; The Character of Betty is very sympathetic, which makes it easy to identify with her, but she is also emotionally confused. Helen on the other hand is marginalized as a scandalous divorcee who is weird for taking walks, but seems rational especially in contrast with Betty. Since Betty is the main character I think some people assume her point of view. In my opinion Helen was completely right to hesitantly confront Betty about the hair she gave Glenn. However Betty rationalized it, doesn&#039;t change the fact that she was encouraging a kid to lust after her. 
     The slap itself seemed to be thrown in anger but without conviction. Betty then gives Helen a &quot;How Dare You&quot; stare and starts to walk away but quickly becomes embarrassed and runs out abandoning her cart. Betty is also the one who turn this confrontation in to a &quot;public scene&quot; by slapping Helen. 
 
I find it hard to understand why Helen is a bitch in that situation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be some confusion about &quot;The Slap.&quot; The Character of Betty is very sympathetic, which makes it easy to identify with her, but she is also emotionally confused. Helen on the other hand is marginalized as a scandalous divorcee who is weird for taking walks, but seems rational especially in contrast with Betty. Since Betty is the main character I think some people assume her point of view. In my opinion Helen was completely right to hesitantly confront Betty about the hair she gave Glenn. However Betty rationalized it, doesn&#039;t change the fact that she was encouraging a kid to lust after her.<br />
     The slap itself seemed to be thrown in anger but without conviction. Betty then gives Helen a &quot;How Dare You&quot; stare and starts to walk away but quickly becomes embarrassed and runs out abandoning her cart. Betty is also the one who turn this confrontation in to a &quot;public scene&quot; by slapping Helen. </p>
<p>I find it hard to understand why Helen is a bitch in that situation.</p>
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		<title>By: B.Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the shot of Betty sitting on Helen&#039;s couch right after she sends Glen to bed (with her lock of hair).  She&#039;s sitting like a little girl, with kind of a bemused grin on her face.  She identifies with this eight-year-old and her body language becomes that of a little girl herself. 
 
Roberta - your devil&#039;s defense reminds me of the final scene in Election when Matthew Broderick&#039;s character is doing the voice-over/flashback, listing all the reasons he hates Tracy Flick, growing more agitated, until he hurls the cup of soda at her limousine.  One of my all-time favorites ... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the shot of Betty sitting on Helen&#039;s couch right after she sends Glen to bed (with her lock of hair).  She&#039;s sitting like a little girl, with kind of a bemused grin on her face.  She identifies with this eight-year-old and her body language becomes that of a little girl herself. </p>
<p>Roberta &#8211; your devil&#039;s defense reminds me of the final scene in Election when Matthew Broderick&#039;s character is doing the voice-over/flashback, listing all the reasons he hates Tracy Flick, growing more agitated, until he hurls the cup of soda at her limousine.  One of my all-time favorites &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Darkly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Darkly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I understand why Betty did it and why it made sense to her, and why she even feels betrayed by Helen, and I&#039;ve even suggested Betty felt it to be okay because of the movies of that time, and that it was a very movie star thing to do... but I would have been creeped out in Helen&#039;s place, too. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I understand why Betty did it and why it made sense to her, and why she even feels betrayed by Helen, and I&#039;ve even suggested Betty felt it to be okay because of the movies of that time, and that it was a very movie star thing to do&#8230; but I would have been creeped out in Helen&#039;s place, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Years and years (and years) ago, I had an idiot boss. She was infuriating. I did all the work, she was oblivious, blah blah blah.

One day she pissed me off royally. Don&#039;t remember what it was... did she call in and tell me she was going to be a few hours late? I don&#039;t remember. That day I made a few calls about jobs.

I was in therapy at the time. My therapist pointed out that it was a great remedy to my anger; my hands wanted to hit something (or really, my boss), and instead they picked up the phone and took positive action toward change.

Never forgot it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years and years (and years) ago, I had an idiot boss. She was infuriating. I did all the work, she was oblivious, blah blah blah.</p>
<p>One day she pissed me off royally. Don&#8217;t remember what it was&#8230; did she call in and tell me she was going to be a few hours late? I don&#8217;t remember. That day I made a few calls about jobs.</p>
<p>I was in therapy at the time. My therapist pointed out that it was a great remedy to my anger; my hands wanted to hit something (or really, my boss), and instead they picked up the phone and took positive action toward change.</p>
<p>Never forgot it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;ll play devil&#039;s advocate. 
 
From Betty&#039;s perspective, she is completely innocent. She did the woman a favor, and now is being accused (sort of) of being a dangerous pervert. The slap was the 1960 version of&lt;em&gt; You watch your mouth&lt;/em&gt;. Certainly not considered assault. 
 
Now, combine that, which is almost rational, with the shame that Betty feels. Because she does know that it was inappropriate, and although she certainly never considered, until this moment, that it was either dangerous or criminal, she does feel busted. Exposed. By this woman who is nothing but a troublemaker. Betty defended Helen from the beginning, but also made Don go get the cake (and look how &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; turned out) when he and Helen were outside together.  And that hussy is accusing her? How dare she! 
 
Add to that all that Helen represents... everything that Betty both craves and fears the most. In a classic tarot layout, your hopes and fears are one thing. One card represents both. That be Helen Bishop. Slap that bitch. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#039;ll play devil&#039;s advocate. </p>
<p>From Betty&#039;s perspective, she is completely innocent. She did the woman a favor, and now is being accused (sort of) of being a dangerous pervert. The slap was the 1960 version of<em> You watch your mouth</em>. Certainly not considered assault. </p>
<p>Now, combine that, which is almost rational, with the shame that Betty feels. Because she does know that it was inappropriate, and although she certainly never considered, until this moment, that it was either dangerous or criminal, she does feel busted. Exposed. By this woman who is nothing but a troublemaker. Betty defended Helen from the beginning, but also made Don go get the cake (and look how <em>that</em> turned out) when he and Helen were outside together.  And that hussy is accusing her? How dare she! </p>
<p>Add to that all that Helen represents&#8230; everything that Betty both craves and fears the most. In a classic tarot layout, your hopes and fears are one thing. One card represents both. That be Helen Bishop. Slap that bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Rondi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rondi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roberta, I agree with you that Betty&#039;s smacking Helen was a good sign in terms of her emotional health. I immediately thought of her previous difficulties with her hands and said to myself, &quot;Her hands sure do what she wants now!&quot; (o:
I was happy to see her do it, for that reason, and because Helen deserved it.
Harry, thx for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberta, I agree with you that Betty&#8217;s smacking Helen was a good sign in terms of her emotional health. I immediately thought of her previous difficulties with her hands and said to myself, &#8220;Her hands sure do what she wants now!&#8221; (o:<br />
I was happy to see her do it, for that reason, and because Helen deserved it.<br />
Harry, thx for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Darkly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms. Darkly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree -- Helen is one of the few people who&#039;ve acted parental in the way we define it today. &quot;You stepped over a line with my child, and I don&#039;t want to associate with you,&quot; as opposed to giving adults carte blanche to strike her children like we&#039;ve seen other parents do. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8212; Helen is one of the few people who&#039;ve acted parental in the way we define it today. &quot;You stepped over a line with my child, and I don&#039;t want to associate with you,&quot; as opposed to giving adults carte blanche to strike her children like we&#039;ve seen other parents do.</p>
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		<title>By: B.Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I was happy to see her do it, for that reason, and because Helen deserved it.&quot; 
 
I would disagree, Rondi.  What did Helen do to deserve getting smacked? (if I were a lawyer I&#039;d say &quot;assualted&quot;)  All she did was confront her neighbor who acted strangely while babysitting her kids. 
 
Furthermore, she acted like (and this is a phrase I use a lot) a normal person.  She politely confronted Betty to ask her about the incident and made it clear that she acted inappropriately.  So Betty, feeling humiliated (after being humiliated by Don earlier), acts out with the slap. 
 
But lets not think that Helen was in the wrong for treating Betty like a normal person. 
 
This is not to say I don&#039;t sympathize with Betty&#039;s plight - her storyline is one of the best ever, and I enjoy all the discussion about her on this board.  She&#039;s truly representative of the American woman of the early 60&#039;s and doesn&#039;t understand how to act in her changing world. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;I was happy to see her do it, for that reason, and because Helen deserved it.&quot; </p>
<p>I would disagree, Rondi.  What did Helen do to deserve getting smacked? (if I were a lawyer I&#039;d say &quot;assualted&quot;)  All she did was confront her neighbor who acted strangely while babysitting her kids. </p>
<p>Furthermore, she acted like (and this is a phrase I use a lot) a normal person.  She politely confronted Betty to ask her about the incident and made it clear that she acted inappropriately.  So Betty, feeling humiliated (after being humiliated by Don earlier), acts out with the slap. </p>
<p>But lets not think that Helen was in the wrong for treating Betty like a normal person. </p>
<p>This is not to say I don&#039;t sympathize with Betty&#039;s plight &#8211; her storyline is one of the best ever, and I enjoy all the discussion about her on this board.  She&#039;s truly representative of the American woman of the early 60&#039;s and doesn&#039;t understand how to act in her changing world.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Leone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Leone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last year, I had a similar experience as Deborah&#039;s - numbness in hands and arms. Went as far as seeing a neurologist (recommended by my regular doc) and getting an MRI, but thankfully nothing was found wrong. Ultimately, the doc said that it was stress-related. It&#039;s incredible and profound how stress and other emotional factors can manifest in physical ways... 
 
So I never thought that Betty was physically ill, particularly after she said her doctor found nothing physically wrong. It does seem like Weiner intended the symptoms to be psychosomatic, and that&#039;s logical given what we know of Betty&#039;s struggles at the time. 
 
Ok! Stating the obvious done. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year, I had a similar experience as Deborah&#039;s &#8211; numbness in hands and arms. Went as far as seeing a neurologist (recommended by my regular doc) and getting an MRI, but thankfully nothing was found wrong. Ultimately, the doc said that it was stress-related. It&#039;s incredible and profound how stress and other emotional factors can manifest in physical ways&#8230; </p>
<p>So I never thought that Betty was physically ill, particularly after she said her doctor found nothing physically wrong. It does seem like Weiner intended the symptoms to be psychosomatic, and that&#039;s logical given what we know of Betty&#039;s struggles at the time. </p>
<p>Ok! Stating the obvious done.</p>
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