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		<title>By: Basket of Kisses &#124; Mad News, July 28â€“30, 2008</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2008/07/30/women-as-a-niche-market/comment-page-1/#comment-9751</link>
		<dc:creator>Basket of Kisses &#124; Mad News, July 28â€“30, 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 17:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here&#8217;s my favorite article of the week, from Ad Week (hat tip to Basketcase Peter G.). Barbara Lippert writes an insider&#8217;s critique of Mad Men, hating it and then loving it, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] here&#8217;s my favorite article of the week, from Ad Week (hat tip to Basketcase Peter G.). Barbara Lippert writes an insider&#8217;s critique of Mad Men, hating it and then loving it, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta Lipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberta Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry. You kind of have to be an idiot to look at that moment and think that the team behind the show is actually &lt;em&gt;behind&lt;/em&gt; that thinking!

She gets high marks proving herself to be wit-free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry. You kind of have to be an idiot to look at that moment and think that the team behind the show is actually <em>behind</em> that thinking!</p>
<p>She gets high marks proving herself to be wit-free.</p>
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		<title>By: Melville</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2008/07/30/women-as-a-niche-market/comment-page-1/#comment-9749</link>
		<dc:creator>Melville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are just some people who are incapable of understanding irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are just some people who are incapable of understanding irony.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Darkly</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2008/07/30/women-as-a-niche-market/comment-page-1/#comment-9748</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Darkly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and add homophobic to the charges against Joss Whedon. I know, right?! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and add homophobic to the charges against Joss Whedon. I know, right?!</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Darkly</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2008/07/30/women-as-a-niche-market/comment-page-1/#comment-9747</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Darkly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t say I have much tolerance for her point, because it&#039;s poking into my pet peeve zone. It&#039;s the same gut reaction I have when someone says Joss Whedon is sexist or racist, because... You don&#039;t kick the people who are trying to say something important because they didn&#039;t get an A+ on their report card, not when most everybody else in their field is flunking out, and you bring your native-born intelligence to the experience and understand that a writer doesn&#039;t advocate everything he/she writes, often the reason they wrote it is a form of protest. 
 
I have sympathy for Ellelque&#039;s point as well. There&#039;s nothing wrong with peddling your work, but not by making a point that isn&#039;t honest. I don&#039;t know, of course, that she  doesn&#039;t believe what she&#039;s selling, but no careful observer of the show could possibly come away with the impression she  did, and to make the allegation without careful observation or stating more than once that you say part of an episode and it existed in a vacuum, and the most you can do is use it as a discussion point rather than make a point about the actual show, and I&#039;m running out of commas, largely discredits her. But might sell books -- too bad her last name isn&#039;t O&#039;Hara. 
 
Of course, I&#039;ve spent time on the IMDB board which has worn down all tolerance for people incapable of paying attention or processing simple information. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#039;t say I have much tolerance for her point, because it&#039;s poking into my pet peeve zone. It&#039;s the same gut reaction I have when someone says Joss Whedon is sexist or racist, because&#8230; You don&#039;t kick the people who are trying to say something important because they didn&#039;t get an A+ on their report card, not when most everybody else in their field is flunking out, and you bring your native-born intelligence to the experience and understand that a writer doesn&#039;t advocate everything he/she writes, often the reason they wrote it is a form of protest. </p>
<p>I have sympathy for Ellelque&#039;s point as well. There&#039;s nothing wrong with peddling your work, but not by making a point that isn&#039;t honest. I don&#039;t know, of course, that she  doesn&#039;t believe what she&#039;s selling, but no careful observer of the show could possibly come away with the impression she  did, and to make the allegation without careful observation or stating more than once that you say part of an episode and it existed in a vacuum, and the most you can do is use it as a discussion point rather than make a point about the actual show, and I&#039;m running out of commas, largely discredits her. But might sell books &#8212; too bad her last name isn&#039;t O&#039;Hara. </p>
<p>Of course, I&#039;ve spent time on the IMDB board which has worn down all tolerance for people incapable of paying attention or processing simple information.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Lipp</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2008/07/30/women-as-a-niche-market/comment-page-1/#comment-9746</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, thanks for the link. No relation that I know. 
 
Ellelque, it may be that the author is being cheesy, but it may also be that when her pet peeve appears on screen, it irritates her too much to pay close attention. I know the feeling and I sympathize, even though she&#039;s wrong. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, thanks for the link. No relation that I know. </p>
<p>Ellelque, it may be that the author is being cheesy, but it may also be that when her pet peeve appears on screen, it irritates her too much to pay close attention. I know the feeling and I sympathize, even though she&#039;s wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly, in the same magazine/website, AdAge, there is another Review (link below) by Barbara Lippert (any relationship Lipp Sisters?) that is extremely interesting and insightful from her point of view (as all reviews should be - even if we don&#039;&#039;t agree with them). What makes this review neat is the willingness by the Reviewer to admit she was wrong with her first-impressions and to adjust her opinions based on more in-depth thought and further viewings (&quot;...my obsessive view was in fact making me the dim one&quot;). Her assessment of FTWTY as: &quot;...the best ever, setting up psychologically intricate story arcs that will play out all year in grandly satisfyingly Sopranos-like fashion&quot;, is followed by some really interesting insight... 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/agency/e3if6974da32787214707a136b489dc3310?imw=Y&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/age...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, in the same magazine/website, AdAge, there is another Review (link below) by Barbara Lippert (any relationship Lipp Sisters?) that is extremely interesting and insightful from her point of view (as all reviews should be &#8211; even if we don&#039;&#039;t agree with them). What makes this review neat is the willingness by the Reviewer to admit she was wrong with her first-impressions and to adjust her opinions based on more in-depth thought and further viewings (&quot;&#8230;my obsessive view was in fact making me the dim one&quot;). Her assessment of FTWTY as: &quot;&#8230;the best ever, setting up psychologically intricate story arcs that will play out all year in grandly satisfyingly Sopranos-like fashion&quot;, is followed by some really interesting insight&#8230;<br />
  <a target="_blank" href="http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/agency/e3if6974da32787214707a136b489dc3310?imw=Y"  rel="nofollow">http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/age&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ellelque</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2008/07/30/women-as-a-niche-market/comment-page-1/#comment-9744</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellelque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marketing is not unethical.  It is part of our world. 
 
My problem was more with the fact that she states that &quot;I caught one of the recent reruns from the first season, and, just to stay current, tried to watch it all the way through.&quot; 
 
She bases her whole article on &quot;women niche&quot; but failed to sit through the whole episode and see that it indeed comes up with what she is trying to say, Women are the market. 
 
I just think that is wrong to promote her book at the expense of putting down another work, Matt&#039;s.  It would have been more appropriate to priase Matt&#039;s writing and how it show&#039;s her own theory about how there was a time when they felt women were a niche.  Matt&#039;s writing is a work in progress that will eventually show these people and the society evolve.  How else are we to understand how far we&#039;ve come if we don&#039;t see where we were. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marketing is not unethical.  It is part of our world. </p>
<p>My problem was more with the fact that she states that &quot;I caught one of the recent reruns from the first season, and, just to stay current, tried to watch it all the way through.&quot; </p>
<p>She bases her whole article on &quot;women niche&quot; but failed to sit through the whole episode and see that it indeed comes up with what she is trying to say, Women are the market. </p>
<p>I just think that is wrong to promote her book at the expense of putting down another work, Matt&#039;s.  It would have been more appropriate to priase Matt&#039;s writing and how it show&#039;s her own theory about how there was a time when they felt women were a niche.  Matt&#039;s writing is a work in progress that will eventually show these people and the society evolve.  How else are we to understand how far we&#039;ve come if we don&#039;t see where we were.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah Lipp</title>
		<link>http://www.lippsisters.com/2008/07/30/women-as-a-niche-market/comment-page-1/#comment-9743</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah Lipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julia, very smart commentary. 
 
Ellelque, there is nothing wrong with a writer promoting her own books. And she is not the one who decides what a byline will look like. When you write for publication, you submit the byline info (Deborah Lipp, author of..., lives in..., blah blah blah), and the publication decides what and how much of it will appear. Her authorship promotes her book, and also gives her authority; it is her credentials for writing the article. It is in no way unethical. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia, very smart commentary. </p>
<p>Ellelque, there is nothing wrong with a writer promoting her own books. And she is not the one who decides what a byline will look like. When you write for publication, you submit the byline info (Deborah Lipp, author of&#8230;, lives in&#8230;, blah blah blah), and the publication decides what and how much of it will appear. Her authorship promotes her book, and also gives her authority; it is her credentials for writing the article. It is in no way unethical.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellelque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellelque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean she mentioned her &quot;first&quot; book.  In hopes people will buy it and be so amazed they find out where to buy her next book. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean she mentioned her &quot;first&quot; book.  In hopes people will buy it and be so amazed they find out where to buy her next book.</p>
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